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There is a request, submitted by bamse ( talk), for an audio version of this article to be created. For further information, see WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. The rationale behind the request is: "Important article about a World Heritage Site and interesting aspects of the colonial history of America". |
I will take a shot at it. Second language english is my favorite. However, it will take a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glubbdrubb ( talk • contribs) 19:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Bamse, I saw your request for copy-editing on the Guild's page, and I'm in the process of getting some of it done. I won't get it all done tonight because it's nearly 1am my time, but I'll try and get as much done as possible in the next few days. As I know little about the subject, I'm leaving the facts to other people and just tidying up around them. I have, however, removed a reference to the distance between the missions, because it was clumsy and I can't think of a better way of wording it off the top of my head. When I find a better way to word it, I'll put that back in.
Faerie Queene ( talk) 00:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
(I need a better way to do this. Is some sort of wiki-markup I can use?)
From "Arrival in the Viceroyalty of Peru"
"In 1566, more than 30 years after the Franciscans, Dominicans, Augustinians and Mercedarians, a group of Jesuits travelled, with the permission of King Philip II of Spain, to..."
30 years after what? 30 years after the Franciscans, Dominicans, Augustinians and Mercedarians went to Peru? -- Glubbdrubb ( talk) 17:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes 30 years after the other orders had arrived in Peru, the Jesuits arrived. bamse ( talk) 02:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
From "The Jesuits in Chiquitanía"
I have changed:
"Compared to their neighbours in Paraguay, due to the remoteness and lack of transportation of the Chiquitos missions they were spared from large scale epidemics."
to:
"Compared to their neighbours in Paraguay, the Chiquitos missions were spared from large scale epidemics due to their remoteness and lack of easy transportation."
Is that what is meant in the first sentence?
--
Glubbdrubb (
talk)
18:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
~Yes, perfectly correct. bamse ( talk) 02:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
"The first Jesuit reduction in the Chiquitanía was the mission of San Francisco Javier which was founded in 1691 by the Jesuit José de Arce and later moved."
and later moved? Who or what moved, and why is it mentioned?-- Glubbdrubb ( talk) 18:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Is each mission in the area considered an individual World Heritage Site or are all of them together considered a World Heritage Site? --
Glubbdrubb (
talk)
17:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
I think including the table on the sandbox will work out. It is a good way to visualize the rather complicated time-line described in the article. Don't be concerned about making the article too long right now. -- Glubbdrubb ( talk) 10:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I want to help with copy editing this article.
I have a question about the introductory section. Are you trying to say that the Chiquitos are noted for their originality, architecture, AND their hard to reach location? Or are you simply giving a geographical description? Slapazoid ( talk) 04:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Bamse, I've made some tweaks, hope they are okay. I'm into the modern period now, and it is still unclear to me what the reduction system is. I've inserted a confusing tag into the text where you start to talk about it, but don't explain it. It's not a term I'm familiar with....? So before I proceed, will you try to clarify that?-- Auntieruth55 ( talk) 22:52, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I will be reviewing the article over the next week at Talk:Jesuit_Missions_of_the_Chiquitos/GA1. Currently it is on hold as there are a few obvious problems to be fixed - they should be relatively easy to handle though. During the next days I will conduct a thorough review. ·Maunus·ƛ· 01:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
All the WH site towns have been given crappy little stubs, all infobox & maps & nothing else. The info here should be copied to these, plus commonscat etc. Johnbod ( talk) 17:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello all. I am in the process now of amplifying the stubs Johnbod refers to immediately above this post. This will take some time as I have other pressing commitments, but it will be done.
For the record, the stubs to be emended are as follows: San Xavier (also referred to as "San Javier", although the original - and preferred - spelling is "San Xavier"); Concepción; Santa Ana de Velasco; San Rafael de Velasco; San Miguel de Velasco; and San José de Chiquitos. These six comprise those former Jesuit missions that were inscribed on UNESCO's World Heritage Sites List in 1990.
In addition, there are other ex-mission towns in the Chiquitania that are not included in the above UNESCO WHS List. These are San Ignacio de Velasco; San Juan Bautista; Santiago de Chiquitos; and Santo Corazón. As the article is about the Jesuit missions of Chiquitos (whether they are UNESCO-listed or not), I'll also write these articles. I may also add one for San Ignacio de Zamucos, a little-known former mission but nonetheless one of the original Jesuit foundations in the Chiquitania. On a related note, I'll make some minor corrections to the wiki lists for the founding of the settlements and churches in Chiquitos as well, as in one or two cases the range of dates can be narrowed thanks to recent research.
I'll also amplify the stub "Chiquitania". Please see my comments regarding the proper spelling of its name, which is "Chiquitania" (without an accented final "i".) I realise changing it will require work on other entries, but this is its universally accepted spelling; anything to the contrary is simply incorrect.
A final comment on spelling....
The article in question here ("Jesuit Missions of Chiquitos") is properly spelled as it appears in the parenthesis. I have made this change throughout the article. The definite article "the" is not used by subject matter experts, as the phrase "Chiquitos" does not require it (in the same way that one never writes "the India" or "the Italy"). The fact that UNESCO has the English version of the inscription title ("Misiones jesuíticas de Chiquitos" in Spanish, again, without the definite article) as "Jesuit Missions of the Chiquitos" is unfortunate. I have contacted the individuals in charge of this listing at UNESCO's Paris office (Penelope Keenan and Nuria Sanz). They are aware of the error, but on 15 December 2011 stated that they would not address it. Notwithstanding, the phrase found in all literature on the region is invariably "Jesuit Missions of Chiquitos". Here again, as with the correction required to "Chiquitania", I realise that this too will require changes across multiple entries, but I offer this suggestion in the interest of making these articles factually correct in every regard.
I also wish to thank Bamse/Lilleskut and especially Erich Loser for their help and support in getting me up to speed on this project. It is much appreciated. -- Geoffrey Groesbeck ( talk) 06:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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