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Did you know... that properties in Jaywick have been on sale for as little as £20,000?
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The style and content is rather refreshing and fun, but not very encyclopedic! Since I don't know anything much about Jaywick I don't think I could take this on, but maybe if someone could look at whats in other small town pages and make a start here...!
The lede has "According to the
Indices of deprivation 2010 part of the village is the most deprived area in England.[1]", which is almost immediately followed by: "East Jaywick was named as the most deprived area in England according to the Indices of deprivation 2010, based on multiple factors including poverty, crime, education and skill levels, unemployment and housing, as assessed in 2008.[1]" This is entirely appropriate, as the lede is supposed to summarise what follows. However, from
WP:LEADCITE: "because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body…information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely… to require a source". As the two references are to the same source, supporting identical pieces of information in the article, are both necessary? The linked policy suggests not. —
Old Moonraker (
talk)
13:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)reply
That's fine, I think I'll leave some comments tomorrow morning. Feel free to come to the review whenever is best for you! ☯Jaguar☯20:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Not sure if there is a correct way of writing the opening of leads in English villages, but I always start with the basic information, such as "'x' is a village in the 'x' district of Essex, England. Its nearest town is 'x', which lies 'x' miles away". I think this would be a better opening for Jaywick, for example how far is it from Clacton on Sea? What district of Essex is it in?
According to the 2001 census, 4,665. According to the Daily Mail, 3,500. While the Mail could be right that population has declined in the last 14 years, it has a real axe to grind about Jaywick and so I wouldn't use it as a source here. I've gone with 4,665. If I can find the 2011 census figures specifically for Jaywick as opposed to greater Clacton and Tendring ward, I'll use those.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
"Local charity Signpost has helped young people find employment, which has become difficult due to many jobs being a significant distance away in Colchester or Ipswich" - surely Clacton on Sea is a nearby town?
It is nearby, but there is no work there, which is the point the source is trying to make. Colchester and Ipswich are on the
A12 and
A14 corridors and have good train access, Clacton is at the end of the road.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
References
Ref 20 redirected to another page, but I think that could just be me
According to
the toolserver, the rest of the links appear to be working with the exception of one requiring a subscription, but that wouldn't affect the GA criteria
The citations are in the right places, so that meets the GA criteria
On hold
What a nice place! I definitely need to go here in the summer. I couldn't find anything major with this article as most of it is in decent shape. The only things I found were a few prose issues and some lack of content in the lead section, such as its location, population and other small details which could easily be added. I'll put this on hold for the standard seven days and will watch this page closely. Thanks! ☯Jaguar☯16:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
@
Jaguar: I think I've addressed all the issues. By all means pop down and have a look, the eastern part and the seafront is okay, particularly in the summer (although
Mersea Island is just up the road and that's got a wonderful beach). It's the Brooklands and Grasslands estates to the west that are the really depressing bits that get the Daily Mail foaming at the mouth.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Close - promoted
Thanks for addressing them! This is overall a very well written article and an enjoyable read. It is broad, comprehensive and everything else checks out. I might come here in the Spring/Summer as I usually am in London/East Coast. Already have been to Mersea Island a lot of times, very nice beach! Jaywick reminds me a lot of
Southsea for some reason, my closest point to the sea. Anyway promoting ☯Jaguar☯19:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Well I'll be in Mersea tomorrow lunchtime, maybe looking out to the east to see what Jaywick is up to. Need to get some more geography articles up to GA, this cup is taking all my time away!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)19:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Older history?
The article seems to imply that the area was uninhabited until the modern era. But according to my dictionary of British place names, the earliest form of the name Jaywick was recorded in 1438, meaning there must have been a settlement at that date.
Zacwill (
talk)
22:05, 14 July 2016 (UTC)reply
As the article says, "Because of its close proximity to the sea, Jaywick had never been a practical place for farming due to the risk from floods and the land remained unused", and therefore it was pretty much in the middle of nowhere before 1928. I can drop in the
25" map of the area c. 1897 that shows a few houses, but that's pretty much the extent of it. Indeed, that's why Frank Stedman was keen to buy the land, it was considered worthless and cheap.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)10:56, 15 July 2016 (UTC)reply
I think there ought to be some discussion of this then. "Jaywick was historically a very minor settlement, consisting of a farm and a few cottages." - something like that.
Zacwill (
talk)
13:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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This article appears to have been written by people who have never visited Jaywick. The area of Jaywick mostly described here is the Brooklands area. That is one end of the village. There is a far larger part which is not deprived, and homes can sell at £300,000 plus.
The article has focused on one estate (i.e. Brooklands) developed as a holiday village, ignoring the rest of the village (in fact, I would be more inclined to describe it as a small town: population 5,000).
I think that, with more research, a much better article could be written.