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Too much first person account

This article relies too much on what Rawles says about himself, rather than third-party accounts for context and perspective. It needs to be edited to reduce quotes from him, as well as too much detail about book publishing history. This is unusual in terms of articles about writers. Parkwells ( talk) 19:27, 26 April 2014 (UTC) reply


This article was written by Jim Rawles. Please Mark for deletion - notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.46.77.167 ( talk) 04:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Even a cursory overview of the edit history would show that's not the case. ButlerBlog ( talk) 19:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC) reply

COI Tag

I just noticed that someone added a Conflict of Interest tag to the top of this article. This article has been extant for ten years, and I only recently jumped in to correct some errors. Since I've only made edits to a few lines of this lengthy article, and since nearly every assertion in the article is well-sourced from print media publications (heavily footnoted), I do not agree that I'm "A major contributor to this article..." I respectfully request that this tag be removed. James Wesley, Rawles ( talk) 21:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC) reply

The aforementioned COI flag has been up since December of 2015, without any legitimate justification. I again request that it be removed. James Wesley, Rawles ( talk) 13:49, 23 March 2016 (UTC) reply
It has been removed since there have been more than 1250 edits to the article and only 30ish have been you. However, it should go without saying that you should avoid editing it at all given your self-identified (and obvious) COI. ButlerBlog ( talk) 19:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC) reply

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Secret ranch location

Why does the article devote so much space to the supposedly secret location of Rawles? It feels like original research or a synthesis. Couldn’t we just summarize the sources briefly? Or just leave it out? I looked in the history. It was all added by a mysterious IP Special:Contributions/46.19.143.33. WestRiding24 ( talk) 01:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

That's not what WP:OR or WP:SYNTHESIS are. Everything was properly cited by reliable sources. What you removed actually does what you asked - summarizes the sources. You'd be better served to expand the weaker sections than remove one that is sourced by reliable sources unless there is a better reason to remove it. ButlerBlog ( talk) 11:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I didn’t delete any sources, I just condensed the very lengthy recitation of speculation about his secret whereabouts. Was that summary incorrect? Why does this article need to spend so much space saying, in essence, “he doesn’t want people to know where he lives.” I don’t think I’ve seen another biography dwell so long on an unknown topic. It’s disproportionate. Don’t you think so? Why do we need three long quotations on the issue? If you want the material in the article the burden is on you to justify it all. WestRiding24 ( talk) 18:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply