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Tout à fait d'accord. J'aimerais bien voir à quelle source cet article s'est abreuvé. Peut-on nous montrer un seul document probant pour l'existence de ce personnage ?
J. de Cauna, historien. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
85.68.253.250 (
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16:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)reply
The sources indicated seem pretty clear that this character is a fictional or legendary pirate, about as real as Long John Silver. Shouldn't this article make that clear and be added to these subjects:
Fictional characters introduced in 1940
Fictional outlaws
Fictional pirates — Preceding
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Dan Conlin (
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"Back from the Dead Red" + general fakeness
In an article already low on facts, this one seems especially implausible. She and her associates, assuming she existed, were Francophone! In general I am not impressed with the sourcing here - the first mention of her in Google Books is a whopping 300+ years after she supposedly lived, in a book that appears to be fiction. I strongly suspect this is a fictional person that various people have embellished over time. –
Roscelese (
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02:25, 16 February 2022 (UTC)reply
The fact that she is a fictious person does not mean she should be deleted. Fictive people can be notable, and if she has attracted so much attention and have been seen as real, then she can be notable to be mentioned as such. The article should reflect that of course and clearly state that she is not a real person.--
Aciram (
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21:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Of course we have articles on fictional people. I just don't think that she passes our notability guidelines, and I would venture to say that any source that treats her as a real person instead of identifying her as a fictional character created by a particular author should hold at least less weight if not be totally discounted on verifiability grounds. It seems relevant to me that a bunch of low-quality sources are obviously feeding not only off each other but off Wikipedia, embellishing as they go (eg. this "Back from the Dead Red" thing). –
Roscelese (
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14:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Sources cited in the Wikipedia article confirm that "stories of her exploits are attributed to oral storytelling and
Leon Treich, a French fiction writer of the 1940s." Does anyone know which of his works was implicated? 7&6=thirteen (
☎)21:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC)reply