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... that the 1999 video game Interplay Sports Baseball Edition 2000 uses
motion capture of the baseball players, including their stretches? Source: "Players are motion-captured, right down to their stretches at the plate." - "Interplay Baseball 2000". PSM. Imagine Media. April 1999.
Interesting: - The game's motion capture use is not particularly interesting as its competitors (EA's Triple Play and Sony's MLB series) were using it at the same time. Could you provide any other subtleties of its use?
QPQ: Done.
Overall: I cannot find the quote, "The graphics are excellent, and the batter/pitcher interface is equally impressive. Unfortunately, the rest of the game is rather disappointing," in either GameSpot review as cited; I found some quotes in the cited review that could be used in place of the current quote. Other than that error and the lackluster hook, the article is appropriately cited, sufficient in length, and neutral.
SmartAn01 (
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04:00, 1 January 2022 (UTC)reply
SmartAn01 I don't think that the developer changing its name is so important, but more so that this is the first game to reflect the name change. I do know that this is the last game of the series and I'm currently trying to source that so I can build a hook around that fact.
SL93 (
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23:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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SL93: ALT2 does not work with the given citation; per
WP:VG/S, usage of the Giant Bomb wikis is to be avoided. It is salvageable if you can find a report about Interplay closing their sports division. I did find
this IGN article stating that the game has "more than 700 animation sequences"; I think it could supplement the original hook, but I am not sure if DYK hooks are allowed to be cited only through the combination of two sources.
SmartAn01 (
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00:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
SmartAn01 I like ALT4 a lot, but reviewers can't approve their own hook. I worked the information into the article. I am pinging
theleekycauldron and
Kavyansh.Singh as people who might be interested in approving ALT4. I hope you decide to stick around DYK longer because you do a great job.
SL93 (
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01:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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SL93: Thank you for the complement. Sorry, I forgot that rule; I have been meaning to nominate an article of my own. I will ping
SounderBruce as well since he has advised me on several Wikipedia-related affairs.
SmartAn01 (
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01:33, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The ALT4 would probably work better if the hook specified that the two-person teams were used in real broadcasts of the game and not other video games. I had to re-read the hook a few times to get that right. Since I'm also suggesting a change, I'll recuse myself from adding a tick mark. SounderBruce02:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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SounderBruce: Would substituting "baseball game broadcasts" with "baseball telecasts" work in this scenario? I was skeptical of using this terminology given that "telecast" is a portmanteau, but as ALT4 is very close to the 200-character limit, I think this phrase renders the inclusion of "real" optional. The only other option I can think of that can implement "real" without breaking the character limit is swapping "transitioning" to "switching", but I feel that the latter is less descriptive in comparison.
SmartAn01 (
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02:36, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Well, this may come as a shock to you, but this teenaged spreadsheet nerd on wikipedia was never really a sports person. gasp! umm, anyways. I'm not sure if that relates to why this is, but I don't really... understand the hook. I'll dig into it, figure out what it means, but is there a way to make it clearer at first glance?
theleekycauldron (
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07:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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theleekycauldron: I'm not sure if it can be written clearer; I was trying to explain that this game used a voiceover similar to a stadium's public address announcer at a time when the baseball game genre was shifting to featuring TV-like voiceovers such as those featured on MLB on Fox. If you're familiar with
Joe Buck, he and whoever his broadcast partner is was what I was referring to.
SmartAn01 (
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07:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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theleekycauldron That won't work; we were trying to compare the game to games within the baseball game genre. "Other video games" sounds like video games in general were using the two commentators. I guess we could use "contempories" instead, but it doesn't sound as good to me.
SmartAn01 (
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08:16, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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theleekycauldron:
This article from the The Charlotte Observer states, "The PA announcer is adequate, but many of Interplay's competitors are switching to a more real-life, two-man announcing team." I felt that "transitioning" was a more appropriate word given that both this game and its rivals were parts of their respective series.
SmartAn01 (
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09:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)reply