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Judging by their rhetorics towards recognition by Taiwan and that in general Chinese diplomatic vocabulary is rarely direct I think it's safe to say that "grave concern" is pretty much non recognizing. -- Avala ( talk) 14:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
No Declaration of Not Recognizing... The Support Further negotiations. -- 80.80.167.177 ( talk) 15:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Probably wont recognise Kosovo as independent.Unofrtunately I cant find a source but every source will be welcomed.I tried looking at the Guatemalan foreign mionistry website,however it doesnt say anything about Kosovo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChRis ( talk • contribs) 14:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this is getting personal for allot of people posting here. Allot of listings are completely not objective and do not show true statements from governments and their foreign ministries.
Ukraine is one of them. -- 80.80.167.177 ( talk) 15:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
According to the Turkmenistani government,the president of Turkmenistan will fly to Moscow for a meeting with the CIS countries.It is expected they will give statement regarding Kosovo on that meeting.And that will probably be CIS official response.
Can somebody please put more informations regarding this.All that I tried to find is this:
President of Turkmenistan Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov will participate in the unofficial CIS Summit in Moscow on February 22.
As an associated member of the Commonwealth of Independent States Turkmenistan pursues the policy of wide bilateral co-operation with the CIS states and stands steadfast to the strategy of promoting co-operation that meets the national interests.
Last year, Ashgabat hosted the heads of the CIS governments, who held the regular sitting in the Turkmen capital. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChRis ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Greece colour should be changed to light orange since it is among countries that "have expressed concern over unilateral moves or expressed wish for further negotiations". 79.175.64.242 ( talk) 16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there any rule on what should be categorized as Other Entities. What I mean is what could be considered an Entity. ANY COMMENTS -- GreenClawPrishtina ( talk) 16:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Can somebody update Switzerland and add the note according to the The Swiss Federal Assembly, that Switzerland Initiated the Recognition of the Republic of Kosova. The Link is this one: www.parlament.ch/E/Medienmitteilungen/Pages/mm-sda-2008-02-22.aspx -- 91.187.98.251 ( talk) 18:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
This must be the 7th time that I'm stating that the source regarding Ukraine's non-recognition is not valid, and as such Ukraine should be removed from the list of Countries that explicitly do not recognize.... The comment on that source is not an official government statement, it's the opinion of one man Oleh Bilorus and wish of the Serbian Ambassador compiled by the Ukraine Radio Station. The Official Statement can be found at the following link and it does not state or declare in any way that Ukraine does not recognize the Republic of Kosova. The Link: www.mfa.gov.ua/mfa/en/publication/content/16732.htm
The Statement says: On 17 February 2008 Kosovo declared independence. The future of Kosovo and the whole region lies within a European perspective. This is the only way to secure stability... Ukraine is among a majority of the countries which state that the situation around Kosovo cannot be a precedent. -- GreenClawPrishtina ( talk) 18:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
You are adding old news. Oleh Bilorus is the Chief of Foreign Affairs of Rada. That radio is the radio informing Ukrainians on acts of their government. --
Avala (
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20:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I support Avala on this, this was a statement from the chief of Foreign Affairs of Rada, how official of a statement can you get.( Top Gun) 21:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
According to this source [1], the Danes will recognize Kosovo.
According to this source [2], the Danes will recognize Kosovo. Contralya ( talk) 19:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The item at the bottom regarding the Crimean response to Kosovo's declaration of independence is in need of grammatical revision. Please see to this wikipedia 141.166.155.236 ( talk) 01:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate that editors can sometimes be enthuastic, but remember we are an encylopaedia. We are supposed to report things accurately and can afford to wait since there is no deadline. As such, we should NOT be saying that countries have recognised Kosovo when the articles we are using specifically say the countries have NOT yet recognised Kosov. Recognition is a very formal process and it can't just happen on a whim. As it stands, After removing countries which were just reported as likely to recognise Kosov, I was left with 2 countries which we at least had official statements where it was stated they were going to recognise Kosovo. Not wanting to leave an empty list, I changed the header to 'countries that are expected to recognise'. This is far from ideal, but seems the best solution. IMHO, the best bet would have been to wait until we actually had something to add to the list before creating it, but perhaps that's just me... Nil Einne ( talk) 19:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Not a reliable source but I came across this [3] Nil Einne ( talk) 19:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
what about china? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.131.253 ( talk) 04:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The public statement from the Chinese gov't is "We're deeply concerned" and something about trying to find a solution that can be accepted by both sides. It's highly likely China will eventually decide not to recognize Kosovo, but so far it hasn't made a clear announcement yet. The Chinese gov't is extremely cautious on this issue. I thought Wikipedia was trying to mirror what things were rather than predicting what they would be. The source given only briefly says Russia and China opposed the bid in the SC debate. If people believe this piece of news trumps the official "We're deeply concerned" statement of the Chinese authorities that never clearly talked about recognition, then don't change anything. -- User:Wooddoo-eng ( talk) 04:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Bosnia from the list as there two articles give contradictory statements. This article says they will not recognise soon, while this says they will recognise Kosovo. Davewild ( talk) 20:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Bosnia can not recognize because Serb Republic has Veto in presidency. So they can not accept independence because the serb leaders in Bosnia said they would never do so.
Today Israel Comfirmed they will not recognize Kosovo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.216.166.187 ( talk) 11:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Bosnia and Herzegovina's "not in the near future" is different from, say, the PRC's opinion which is still considering. "Not in the near future" is an outright refusal to recognize, at least in the near future, which of course is the politician's words for no. Any position can change over time, so this does not really differ from a straight no. Any comments?
Herunar (
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Its a Neutral Position its not a NO and its not a straight away YES. —Preceding
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GreenClawPrishtina (
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14:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone should find a source I can't. The Presidency has just concluded its decision and declared it to the public. The Bosniac and Croat representatives have agreed to not recognize independence of Kosovo without approval of the Serb representative. In return, the Serb representative has guaranteed the territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina and reaffirmed the country's sovereignty, denouncing possibilities of separatism. -- PaxEquilibrium ( talk) 22:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Taiwan has also recognized Kosovo. Should this be included? -- PaxEquilibrium ( talk) 20:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
OF COURSE —Preceding
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213.98.223.232 (
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20:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
We have received many many different e-mails from both Taiwan and China about the recognition of Kosova, and Taiwan's position on this. We value all your e-mails. Please understand that this website is created to thank all the countries that are recognizing Kosovo as an Independent State. We are not in a position to take a side about the Taiwan issue especially at this critical time. We have decided to list only countries that are members of United Nations. Thank you for your understanding! We Thank Everyone for their support.
Since the ROC has recognized Kosovo, shouldn't we note that it is the second country in Europe besides the Vatican to recognize the ROC as a country? - Thanks, Hos hie 10:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
According to Asia Times
科索沃政府網站表示,已獲17個聯合國員已承認,但當中並不包括台灣,科索沃將台灣稱為“中國台灣”,並列明是非聯合國成員。中國大陸並沒有在已承認或將承認科索沃的名單中。
A Kosovo government website states 17 UN member countries now recognize it, Taiwan not included. Kosovo calls Taiwan "China Taiwan" and states it is not a UN member. Mainland China does not appear on the list.
Two points if this is true:
I couldn't find the website this article refers to, can anyone help? F ( talk) 10:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I think that Taiwan ROC should be listed along with the other nations recognizing Kosovo on the first table. Taiwan may be de jure recognized by only twenty or so other nations, but it's considered a de facto independent and sovereign nation by everyone else. So why should we have Taiwan singled out on a different table just because of its partial official recognition? Hús ö nd 10:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Some user insist that the Republic of China is moved to a separate section called "partially recognized states", and also insist on adding that " PRC claims that Taiwan has no right to give recognition to the Republic of Kosovo".
Meanwhile, the same user insist on removing the fact the PRC itself is not recognized by all states, and is as such itself only partially recognized.
The Republic of China does not recognize the PRC, since the Republic of China claims to be the legitimate government for all of China, and hence of course disputes the right of the PRC to recognize or not recognize. Also, in contrast to the PRC, the Republic of China is recognized as the legitimate Chinese government by the Holy See and as such by 1 billion catholics.
Either we remove the PRC claim from the Republic of China section, OR we also include the point of view of the Republic of China on the PRC. Obrighten ( talk) 16:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Taiwan is a partially Recognized State and Should be in a Separate Section like it used to be. -- GreenClawPrishtina ( talk) 09:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Any Comments? -- GreenClawPrishtina ( talk) 13:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
At TV said that Ireland recognised the first Kosovo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.98.223.232 ( talk) 20:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Please stop dividing the opposition category into "stated" and "reluctant". It's impossible to demonstrate reluctance, and the BBC and Xinhua sources actually say "oppose" for the countries they cite. -- Hemlock Martinis ( talk) 20:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
As this is a European subject, it should be in British English, meaning all the "recognize"s should be "recognise". Does anyone object? J Milburn ( talk) 21:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
why is this typo never fixed -- Cra del 17:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there any basis for writing this article in British English, as opposed to American? Kosovo is in neither Britain nor America. — Rickyrab | Talk 00:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
From what I can tell, the Swedish constitution makes no reference to UN approval being necessary before recognition. The Tom ( talk) 21:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This is what the analysts are discussing all day on the news in Serbia and Macedonia. Albania, Austria and Irland are to be in the fist wave, The rese of EU and US in the second wave... i think that since the article is List of countiries that have recognised Kosovo, it is important to state that NO COUNTRIES have done it officialy. And since wikipedia is not an oracle, there can not be a section with ... will recognize —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.125.236.123 ( talk) 22:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Why has the first two sections of the article have the same name? Speedboy Salesman ( talk) 22:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
According to one of the biggest Norwegian newspapers, Aftenposten, Norway will not decide what to do before they have seen what other states will do, both in the EU and NATO. Norway will also consult their Nordic nabours, according to the Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jonas Gahr Støre. Erik2sen ( talk) 22:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/ud/Press-Contacts/News/2008/kosovo3.html?id=501360 Norway has recognised the REpublic of Kosovo —Preceding
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88.70.66.34 (
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16:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Norway has not recognized Kosovo yet. They will do it, they have decided in principle. But the formal decision has not been made yet. So Norway shouldn't be moved to the states that had made formal decision. You can read that at the bottom of the press release.-- Trigor ( talk) 17:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Norway is planning to recognize Republic of Kosova here is my source:
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=24715
Abstract: "Norway to recognise Kosovo as an independent state
“I can announce today that Norway is going to recognise Kosovo as an independent state. There are several reasons why we have arrived at this conclusion,” says Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre.
“Unfortunately, there is no reason to believe that further negotiations would lead to a mutually agreed solution to the status issue. At the same time, the status quo is no longer viable. There is a need to clarify Kosovo’s future status so that it can continue its economic and political development. In the current situation, it is important that the members of the international community as far as possible take a common position. This in itself would contribute to clarity and stability. A large number of European countries, including other Nordic countries, intend to recognise Kosovo. Given the situation, we feel it is appropriate to signal that Norway will do so as well,” says Mr Støre."
Also here is a link from "Norway Post" http://www.norwaypost.no/cgi-bin/norwaypost/imaker?id=131289 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.253.128 ( talk) 02:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Norway recognized today Kosovo as an independent state.
http://www.kvp.se/nyheter/1.1055230/norge-erkanner-kosovo
-- Albanau ( talk) 17:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I can't read Norwegian, but if it says that Norway has recognised Kosovo, then it should go into the recognised group. Ijanderson977 ( talk) 17:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This is Swedish. This is article from Swedish newspapers. And here they say that Norway has recognized Kosovo. It quotes Norwegian foreign minister on reasons for recognition (same like in press release) Serbian media also reported the same. But I still think that we should observe press release on Norwegian foreign ministry web page. There they say formal decision has not yet been taken. But if you want to make it official do it. I just think we should just respect headlines we have put up, and the fact of the matter is that decision is not official. -- Trigor ( talk) 18:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Trigor and Nightstallion. Sorry i assumed it would have been Norwegian as it was about Norway. So its Swedish. Sorry if i have offended anyone. Ijanderson977 ( talk) 18:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I do not know what to do any more. Norway is in the first group again. I just want you to know that my actions were motivated with quality of this article in mind. I know that there are many people here with other motivations than to have factuality. Some want number of countries who recognized to be as big as possible while others have opposite aim. I for one am completely unbiased and my interest is truth and quality of wikipedia. So if there is so big desire to have Norway there ok, but based on that merit some other countries should be there as well, even though apart from deciding to start the process in the future they have not done anything more. Thanks to Nightstallion and Ijanderson977. I really think they care about same things I do. -- Trigor ( talk) 18:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Trigor. This is an encyclopedia, so we should tell the truth, not lie to make a country seem better or different. Ijanderson977 ( talk) 18:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
they haven't said any single world, have they?. the source was from a year ago, and it's likely they changed their mind. Maybe you should includes it to the other states.-- w_tanoto ( talk) 22:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
On this link
[1], in french, it's say that Indonesia has not recognise Kosovo...
Kormin (
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21:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
No reason for Indonesia not to recognise Kosovo. This is according to Golkar Party (the party of incumbent Vice President). But they haven't decided whether to recognise kosovo
http://www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2008/2/20/no-reason-for-ri-not-to-recognize-kosovo-legislator-says/
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w_tanoto (
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10:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Reference for Indonesia is WRONG. It does not mention Indonesia at all.-- Maduixa ( talk) 19:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Look at that link (in spanish). Indonesia doesn´t recognize formally Kosovo´s independence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.131.166 ( talk) 01:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Diplomatic recognition is not carried out by prime ministers talking into microphones, or even by foreign affairs ministries issuing press releases. It is an international legal process, built on centuries of protocol, that requires the formal transmission of a diplomatic note.
Yes, Australia, Ireland and a few other states have been pretty explicit about their intent to recognize. But it is not one and the same as recognition. It will happen, but hasn't happened yet, so be patient. The Tom ( talk) 23:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Seems that some people don't understand you.
The Australian Prime Minister said Australia "would offer official diplomatic recognition in the near future ... would extend recognition at the earliest opportunity". [9] 203.7.140.3 ( talk) 23:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Australia has formally recognized Kosovo - [10]. I updated the article accordingly. -- Ubardak ( talk) 05:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
A map would look good on this page. Any offers? 87.114.129.209 ( talk) 23:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I see no reason to have both this article and Foreign relations of Kosovo. There is not enough content to justify them to be separate. For example Foreign relations of Montenegro also includes the countries that recognize it. J Milburn, that was extremely rude to make that comment and remove the tag citing that there are more important issues. Reywas92 Talk 23:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Could we not have straw polls at two places at the same time? — Kurykh 00:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)