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Gerald Waldo Luis (
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04:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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I was like Whaaa... you can have two people nominate? Anyways, I'll be reviewing this article.
Gerald
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04:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks! ---
Another Believer (
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05:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks x 2!
Armadillo
pteryx
05:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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References
These issues seem to be only visible to me, I could just fix it myself but taking it here first to see if y'all think it's needed.
Ref 3's publisher is
Time Out Group .
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:19, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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The New York Times Company is ref 4's publisher.
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:20, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Normally if the credit goes to the news or website's staff, I don't include it as there's no distinct authors other than the "staff." Referring to ref 5 and 6.
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Agreed. Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Ref 6's publisher is
Vice Media .
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Ref 9 and 10's publisher is Pride Media.
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Ref 11's publisher is
Guardian Media Group .
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Ref 13's publisher is Bent Share Entertainment.
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Ref 17's publisher is Paper Communications.
Gerald
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05:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Gerald Waldo Luis :
Template:Cite web says of the publisher
field: Not normally used for periodicals. Omit where the publisher's name is substantially the same as the name of the work (for example, The New York Times Co. publishes The New York Times newspaper , so there is no reason to name the publisher).
I omitted the publisher in these instances because the works are periodicals. I don't mind adding in the ones that are not substantially the same as the name of the work, but the template documentation would preclude mention of those such as
Guardian Media Group and
The New York Times Company .
Armadillo
pteryx
05:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , I see. I usually put, like, all parameters known, but that makes sense too.
Gerald
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06:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Gerald Waldo Luis Oops! I added all these because I started going down the list before seeing this discussion. I don't feel strongly about whether or not publishers fields should be added as part of the GA review process. Editors will add or remove these over time. I've added them but invite either of you to remove the ones you deem unnecessary. Thanks! ---
Another Believer (
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14:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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@
Another Believer and
Gerald Waldo Luis : I removed the publishers that have substantially the same name as the works, since the template documentation explicitly says not to include these.
Armadillo
pteryx
15:05, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , Thanks! ---
Another Believer (
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15:06, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Lead
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LGBT community at "crowd of young gay men and tourists"?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Gerald Waldo Luis , I would not necessarily equate "gay men and tourists" with "LGBT community". ---
Another Believer (
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14:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hyphens between "internationally" and "recognized"?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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I reverted this change, because it is a violation of
MOS:HYPHEN , which says: "Avoid using a hyphen after a standard -ly adverb (a newly available home , a wholly owned subsidiary ) unless part of a larger compound (a slowly-but-surely strategy )."
Armadillo
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15:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks! --
Another Believer (
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15:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , thanks for alerting about MOS!
Gerald
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02:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
nightlife ?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Description
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nightclub ?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
fort or anything similar?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done ---
Another Believer (
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14:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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"pockets that break loose..." What do you mean "pockets"?
Gerald
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06:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Gerald Waldo Luis , To me, the description is just saying the interior has different spaces for people to gather. I don't think any links are necessary or particularly helpful here. ---
Another Believer (
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14:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Yyyyeah, I mean it has attribution already. Another daily dose of random challenges readers get to do.
Gerald
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02:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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I'll have to spend some time for TV with my fam. I'll come back later with more stuff (as expected).
Gerald
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06:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Gerald Waldo Luis , Thanks for your many reviews of restaurant/bar GA nominations. I have a couple more in the queue and I hope you will consider reviewing Armadillopteryx's other nominations as well. ---
Another Believer (
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15:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Another Believer , thanks, I love doing these stuffs. I will be semi-active until Friday ICT cause of
stuff , but concluding this week is Decem-freaking-ber, so I'll be able to do more nominations... if I can.
Gerald
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02:57, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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Second check
Link
billiard table ? (I miss playing that on Christmas, sadly this goddamn pandemic--)
Gerald
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04:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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I don't feel too strongly about this, but it would create a
MOS:SEAOFBLUE since
rococo is linked right next to it.
Armadillo
pteryx
04:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
Manhattan ?
Gerald
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04:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done
Armadillo
pteryx
04:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
tank top ?
Gerald
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04:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Again, I don't feel too strongly, but since that word isn't a point of focus or substance of the sentence, I'm not sure it's necessary. It reminds me of the fourth bullet in
MOS:COMMONWORDS . I'll link it if you have a strong preference, though.
Armadillo
pteryx
04:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , yeah I'm not too strong on that.
Gerald
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04:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
paper lantern ?
Hmmm, what is wished in that lantern, Industry ?
Gerald
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04:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done
Armadillo
pteryx
04:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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History
5 statements using multiple citations, one of which is overkill. Any way to treat them?
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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I removed one citation from the sentence that had three; now every sentence has only one or two.
Armadillo
pteryx
03:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link
landlord ?
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Done
Armadillo
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03:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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What is a rotating cast? Like, replacable casts as said in
this forum ?
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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It means that there's a pool of performers (say, 10) from which a few (say, 4) are chosen every week. The lineup changes a little bit from week to week, but it's always from he same group of people.
Armadillo
pteryx
03:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , thanks for clarifying!
Gerald
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03:53, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Reception
Link
New York (magazine) ? Seems like it hasn't.
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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It's linked in the Description section (but actually, it was linked on the second mention, so I've switched it to the first).
Armadillo
pteryx
03:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Whilst searching "midown," I got the result of
Midtown Manhattan . Is it referring to Midtown? If so, it must be fixed with square brackets.
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Yes, and thanks for catching the typo! I've added the Wikilink and fixed the spelling. Per
WP:SIC , simple typographical errors can simply be fixed: insignificant spelling and typographic errors should simply be silently corrected (for example, correct "basicly" to "basically").
Armadillo
pteryx
03:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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(How many policies do I still haven't read wow)
Gerald
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04:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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"He stated" is getting a bit bland here. Suggest changing to "He opined"
Gerald
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03:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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That's one option ... I thought that maybe "remarked" sounded good and added that. Do you think that's okay?
Armadillo
pteryx
03:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , that sounds chic.
Gerald
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03:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillo
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03:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Final thoughts
Armadillopteryx , I did a final edit, see if that's fine for you. Overall this has
Passed the GA criteria in my view. Waiting for your response, then I'll close this review page.
Gerald
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04:56, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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@
Gerald Waldo Luis : Mm ... I'm not sure how necessary it is, since the History section begins with the story of the owners opening Barracuda. What do you think?
Armadillo
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05:01, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , Maybe the issue is we mention Barracuda in the Description section before readers get to the History section? ---
Another Believer (
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05:07, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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I think, ideally, we'd have a passing mention of ownership before we compare Barracuda and Industry Bar, so that the Notes section is not required. ---
Another Believer (
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05:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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That sounds ideal. Removing Bara mention in Description would be a good implementation.
Gerald
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05:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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I mean, I guess, sure—but it's worth noting that the mention in question is wikilinked. I'll go take a look at it.
Armadillo
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05:15, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , Your change works for me! ---
Another Believer (
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05:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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(
edit conflict ) Cool, thanks! I basically just followed Gerald's suggestion to simply cut out that part of the quote; now Barracuda's first mention in the body doesn't come until the History section.
Armadillo
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05:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Armadillopteryx , seems to be fine now, Comrades. The green circle should be up soon after I'm having lunch
as New York's in the dark .
Gerald
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05:38, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.