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Are these few sentences explaining that Icelandic has free word order neccesary? It's weird under the description of the personal pronouns, and neither is it specific for the grammar of this language. As for the inclusion of "hán": I disagree. Including it is more prescriptive than it descriptive. It's a neologism, I couldn't say in how much everyday use it is in Icelandic. Anyway, gender-neutral pronouns in English and German aren't included in the list of pronouns on those respective Wikipedia articles either, at least not with an explanation. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.211.215.76 ( talk) 17:29, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I have assessed this article as a "Start-Class". It could be a B-Class, if only the section on Syntax was expanded and -at least- some references were included. -- Michkalas 17:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
You might want to start a User page of your own, since you have a name and are clearly involved. Anyway, thanks for the corrections. Cheers Io 19:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Despite its length, the article is far from complete. Regarding syntax, it is one of the most difficult things to summarize in any language. It will be done in time, but as for now, the main focus seems to be on morphology, which in the case of Icelandic will require a great deal of work. I drop in now and then, but to be honest, a full treatment exceeds the time, that Max and I have to spare. As an example, a good treatment of verbs is totally lacking (no offence, Max). :-) All in all we need standard templates and then people willing to fill them in. As for the verbs, to take an example, we have 4 classes (or three, depending on perspective) of weak verbs, 6 of strong verbs, five of reduplication verbs, then there are the auxiliary verbs and at least one which is totally irregular. All of the classes have their exceptions - the strong verbs are notorious for that. So to provide an overview of the complete system, a lot of input is needed. Then we have about 60 paradigms for nouns, somewhat fewer for the adjectives and then most of the pronouns have to be presented - they each have their peculilarities. And lastly, we would have to include those adverbs, which allow comparison. That was just for the morphology. All in all, it is an enormous task, and I hereby ask Max to provide the templates (he's good at it) and then to ask others to step in. All the best Io 19:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Can we somehow merge the two sections on reflexivity, we now have two which can be confusing. Max Naylor 20:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
There are more of those than listed here, and the rules are more complicated than one might gather from reading this, but this is a very good start, and covers the most common varieties. Two changes, in particular, are missing, namely A-Fracture, whereby e ⇒ ja and U-Fracture, where e ⇒ jö. (In this context, fracture is apparently synonymous with breaking.) The shifts now in the article are U-Umlaut and I-Umlaut, respectively. Keep up the good work, but it should be easy, when I find the time, to give a full list. At least I have them, it's just a matter of time. (An interesting one, which is no lnger active, but shows up in various places is the A-Umlaut, where i ⇒ e and a ⇒ o. An example of the latter is, e.g., fugl (bird), which is etymologigally the same as English fowl, or the pair gull - gold). Cheers Io 22:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Árnastofnun has both banönum and bönunum on their webside Beygingarlýsing Íslensks nútímamáls. Same for sandali but not arabi. (And I'm quite sure I have heard Örubum) I therefore think that saying these words are exeptions might be to strong but have no idea how to word it instead.
Surely the examples below are in the nominative and not accusative as the article said? I changed it to say nominative.
masculine: hvalur—“(a) whale” becomes hvalurinn—“the whale” feminine: klukka—“(a) clock” becomes klukkan—“the clock” neuter: heimilisfang—“(an) address” becomes heimilisfangið—“the address” Nothingbutmeat ( talk) 15:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Many German speakers will find Icelandic declension familiar, the article reads.
But in German, unlike in Icelandic, nouns have no real inflection, most of the cases job is done (in German) by articles, pronouns and adjectives. Icelandic, by contrast, still sports a real nominal inflection, so the purported familiarity vanishes. 78.50.247.233 ( talk) 21:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC) Wojciech Żełaniec
I have a question concerning the table below. How does one combine the cases and the definite article, that is, is the definite article for a particular gender the same no matter which case we talk about?
number | case | masculine | feminine | neuter | neuter |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
singular | nom. | hattur | borg | glas | gler |
acc. | hatt | borg | glas | gler | |
dat. | hatti | borg | glasi | gleri | |
gen. | hatts | borgar | glass | glers | |
plural | nom. | hattar | borgir | glös | gler |
acc. | hatta | borgir | glös | gler | |
dat. | höttum | borgum | glösum | gler(j)um | |
gen. | hatta | borga | glasa | gler(j)a |
-- Oddeivind ( talk) 17:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
The presentation of the possessive pronouns is a bit confusing. When it comes to the singular and plural I first thought one by plural meant the possessive pronouns "our', "your" and "their", but taking a second look and relating it to modern Norwegian, I realized that one by plural is thinking of one person owing several things. E.g. one person could have several dogs. Take the following English sentence: "My dogs ate all their food". The possessive pronoun in the subject (nominative) would here be "mínir" in Icelandic". The confusing part is that many people seeing the table would think that one by plural is thinking of the first person plural possessive pronoun "our". This was surely what I first thought, but I quickly realized that this was not the case. Anyway, the text should also present the different forms of "our', "your" and "their". -- Oddeivind ( talk) 16:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps there should be a subsection in adjectives dedicated to comparative and superlatives forms of them. Tknotrnce558 ( talk) 01:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I've been looking everywhere for a good explanation of when to use the Icelandic different past tenses (in particular, when to use:
), but I can't seem to find anything consistent about it. I believe, that it would be very useful for folks learning Icelandic to find a better section on the past tenses in Wikipedia. I tried to tackle the differences here, but I'm not sure whether the details are correct (feel free to improve my examples if you have anything better):
Except for the simple pasts, all of these tenses may be in the progressive (vera að + infinitive)
Wisapi (
talk)
02:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I think this article has major issues.
The statements on the page 1) "The independent article, i.e., not attached to the noun as a suffix, is mostly used in poetry and irregularly elsewhere (there are hardly any rules for the latter case; it is mainly a matter of taste)." 2) The independent or free-standing definite article exists in Icelandic in the form hinn.
appear very misleading and cite no references at all.
Declension of the Definite Article
The Definite Article is used as in English when an adjective precedes the noun:
Hinn sterki hestur - The strong horse.
Hin djúpa á - The deep river.
Hið ríka land - The rich land.
Singular
Mas Fem Neut
NOM hinn hin hið ACC hinn hina hið DAT hinum hinni hinu GEN hins hinnar hins
Plural
Mas Fem Neut
NOM hinir hinar hin ACC hina hinar hin DAT hinum hinum hinum GEN hinna hinna hinna
http://www.samkoma.com/mimir/mimart.htm#decline
D.R. du Prie 16:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duprie37 ( talk • contribs)
I think there is a good need of improvement in the defnintie-indefinite article section. Komitsuki ( talk) 15:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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