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Ibn Battuta fans do know about massive Chinese "Junk (ship)" located at the Indian ports, also that the "Champa people" were inspired by "Vijayanagar Kingdom" and religion.
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11:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Orhan?
Praise for "Ottoman Turk" is very outrageous because Sultan Orhan was unknown warlord compared to the well known rulers of "Constantinople".
Tennasserim as another possible candidate for "Tawalisi"?
While the two place names may not look similar in English spelling, in Thai, Tenasserim is pronounced more like "Da-now-si", so perhaps it's that? Also in "A History of Ayutthaya: Siam in the Early Modern World", the city-state of Ayutthaya, prior to it's formal date of foundation in 1351 CE, was more similar to its Maritime Southeast Asian neighbors, who were raiding down the Malay Peninsula at this time, whose customs were described by Fei Shin, a scribe on Zheng He's voyages in the early 15th century,"The customs are violent and fierce: they particularly respect bravery. They invade and despoil neighboring regions … and are practiced and skillful at fighting on water." (Baker, Phongpaichit, 49) I don't believe, however, that Ayutthaya did subjugate the region until the 16th century.
Women also played an integral part in Ayutthaya society, often becoming the leaders of commoner households and heads of society while the men were off being conscripted to fight in wars or perform corvee labor for the king/state, so that kind of negates the idea that women can't be in charge on the mainland, even less so on the Malay peninsula.
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HamHammm's talk page?
As I previously mentioned, describing him as "Moroccan" is obviously anachronistic. If sources is all you're after, you could have asked for them (I added a couple of
reliable sources to prevent further disruption).
M.Bitton (
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19:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
The sources that you added do not add anything in substance, they just say that he was Maghrebi which he obviously was just like Francisco Pizarro was southern european but also Spanish, Maghrebi just like Southern European refers to a group of people from a region made up of various countries and nationalities, you are not explaining here why it is "anachronistic" , throwing a random word out out of nowhere without explanation and reverting edits is very problematic..
HamHammm (
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19:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Various academic papers from various Universities and institutions that I just posted seem do disagree with you assertion.
HamHammm (
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22:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Your edit warring and unwillingness to communicate (despite the comments left on your talk page and the ping from here) is what's problematic. There was no such thing as "Moroccan", "Algerian", Tunisian" or a concept of nationality back then (other than belonging to the Maghreb, as opposed to the Mashreq, and being Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.).
M.Bitton (
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20:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
The key point here is striking a balance, you can't just search for sources saying what you want them to say, you need to search for sources on ethnicity and then stick to what the majority of them say. --
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05:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)reply