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BetacommandBot18:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Among the
Majestic class aircraft carriers, Vikrant is the only one to still be in her original shape (The Majestic is said to have been taken apart and her deck is being used to train Chinese pilots).
SO.... This statement is accurate as per the data on Wikipedia.
Well, Viraat was laid down on 21 June 1944 and although she certainly did not serve during WWII, the design was largely that of a WWII carrier. I would put it in much the same category as
HMAS Melbourne which also was modified during the completion of construction after the war and did not enter service until 1955. She was always regarded nevertheless as a WWII era carrier and I think it is at least arguable that Viraat is one too, unless one takes a very narrow view of what a "WWII era" carrier is. Also, remember that Vikrant herself was incomplete at the end of the war and was also modified during completion and not commissioned until 1961. In fact if we are to consider Vikrant to be a WWII era ship then surely must we consider Viraat to be one also. Of course if India breaks Viraat up after she ends her long service life, then the claim stands, but until then I think not. However, she is the only WWII era British carrier to be preserved as a museum, since Viraat is still in service, so I have modified the article to reflect that. -
Nick Thornetalk10:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Vikrant-Bonaventure conspiracy and Naval Officers Association of Canada
The Naval Officers Association of Canada official website claims here
http://www.noac-national.ca/article/varner/rumoursofasianaircraftcarriers_byjoevarner.html
that the well maintained and recently refitted Bonaventure was quietly swapped for the worn out Indian carrier Vikrant in 1971 which was the ship actually scrapped, it quotes Halifax Herald reporter Mike Bembridge and Senator
Forrestall who attempted to track down Bonaventure in Japan after it disappeared for two weeks only to reappear already partly disassembled where it was supposed to be scrapped. — Preceding
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09:53, 16 December 2011 (UTC)reply
This has just been deleted from this article. I would support keeping it – the current wording doesn't imply that they were swapped, merely that this very specific rumour exists. It is encyclopedic to record that and mention it in both articles.
Andy Dingley (
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17:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)reply
We cover fringe theories and ghost stories. We describe them as just that. Now I wouldn't rule out text changes to clarify this, but as I read the contested section, it claims no more than that. The source is entirely adequate to verify that the story is in circulation. We're not looking to verify that they were swapped (although such content would be welcome).
I'm assuming that much of this story arose because someone took a photo showing that the davits on Vikrant II were the wrong shape but matched Bonaventure or somesuch. It would be nice to get a copy of that, or whatever it is.
Andy Dingley (
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18:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but the source used does not meet the qualification of a reliable source. It just rehashes a rumor, and the origianl site doesn't apprear to even exist anymore. It should stay out until it can be sourced to one that does meet
WP:RS. Searching for photos to show why we think the story exists is basically original research. What is needed is a reliable source that has done the research already. -
BilCat (
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18:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Gender change
Hercules and Vikrant both are masculine/manly names and not feminine. request you to change the pronoun from "She" to " It " from wikipedia pages.
The article contradicts itself; in the introductory paragraph says that it is preserved as a museum ship, however in the relevant section says it has been put for auction and was sold for scrapping. Can anyone please confirm which is the fate of this ship, and amend the article accordingly? Thanks & regards,
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10:42, 7 February 2014 (UTC)reply
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Specifications after modernization programs?
INS Vikrant (R11) was modified quite extensively several times, including, as noted in the article, even before it was commissioned into Indian Navy service. As far as I'm aware, the specifications shown are based on the original wartime design. I am curious how the specifications were affected by the various modernization programs: I would imagine that the displacement remained at 16,000t standard even after the addition of the angled flight deck, for example. The modernization programs in 1979 and 1987 probably changed a lot of things (I seem to remember Indian navy people opposing the ship's retirement because of all the costly changes made in late 1980s). More details on what these programs involved would be very helpful! — Preceding
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