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Most news sources that I have seen say it is reported that he was executed - a report by a South Korean MP of a intelligence briefing. From what I have seen, the SK intelligence service hasn't confirmed this yet. But reports are still coming in.--
Jack Upland (
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09:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I changed it back to alive for now and updated the information. South Korea's National Intelligence Service was the source for all the media reports that said Hyon was executed. However, the source has now revised its statement and says it is not sure whether Hyon was executed. Need more sources before declaring him dead. (
Michael5046 (
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23:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC))reply
It is shameful how biographies of North Korean people are frequently filled with rumours spread by the South Korean intelligence agency and echoed by Western media. Not only put the death date of a person, but silly things like "publicly executed by anti-aircraft fire". Why the
living persons policy is not respected?
emijrp (
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10:53, 16 May 2015 (UTC)reply
The "confirmation" is actually a South Korean news service reporting an anonymous Chinese source that claims to have seen a secret North Korean diplomatic bulletin. I would say it is still not confirmed by North Korea, but there is no point in having an edit war about it.--
Jack Upland (
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06:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Exactly - it is from South Korea. As the source says, North Korean media has not mentioned Hyon's execution, just referred to a new defence minister.--
Jack Upland (
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07:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)reply
As it stands, a year later, we have reports of his death, and sources which indicate some scepticism. What do you think we should do?--
Jack Upland (
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05:07, 31 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Unless someone's updating daily, current and currently should not be used in an encyclopedia article, as the reference could become outdated at any time. For similar reasons, past-tense verbs should be used, as most articles will outlive the present-tense status of breaking news.
Sca (
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16:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Pattern
There seems to be a pattern here. In 2012, Vice Marshal
Ri Yong-ho was reported by North Korean media to have stood down due to illness, but there were rumours of a firefight or an attempted coup. Also in 2012, Vice Defence Minister
Kim Chol was rumoured to have been executed by mortar round for "carousing". It could be true that North Korea has a practice of secretly executing its military leaders for minor reasons. Or South Korean sources could simply circulate such rumours whenever there is a change in personnel. As of today, none of these rumours have been confirmed.
Added to this we have the case of the singer
Hyon Song-wol who was reported executed by multiple sources, only to turn up alive and well the following year. And Kim Jong Un's aunt,
Kim Kyong-hui, whose death has been reported on many occasions by many causes. I think we should be very cautious about accepting such reports as fact.--
Jack Upland (
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09:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)reply