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Merge
There is currently little information associated with this article. As it is, I propose it be merged. However, this storm might be able to stay.
Add much more information about the Reconaissance. If it was the first flight, how accurate was it
"According to reports, the damage wrought by Helene was considered worse than the damage from Hurricane Hazel." Who reported it? What damage occurred? $11 million in damage is very little. Was the damage localized? Was it widespread yet minor? Was there significant flooding that caused the damage, or was it tornadoes?
What makes the storm notable? The intro should always specify why it is notable and thus, why it should have its own page. "Hurricane Helene was of the most intense storms of the 1958 Atlantic hurricane season" According to the seasonal article, it was the most, so why not start with that?
I still think the storm should be merged, but out of this, Janice, and Ella for the season, this one is the most likely to stay in the long run, and even that is pretty low. Why do you continue making stub articles when there are too many low-quality articles as it is?
Hurricanehink15:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)reply
When I first read about this storm a few months ago while doing the old articles, I was pretty intrigued. This storm followed the same path as Ophelia, but as a category 4! It came within 10 miles of being the most northerly landfalling cat4 storm (although it's not alone in this, as
Hurricane Diana (1984) also did so). As for damage, I'm sure the damage *in some places* was worse than that of Hazel. Hazel hardly touched the outer banks for instance. In summary, although I like this storm, I basically agree that unless more info can be found it should be merged. —
jdorje (
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19:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)reply
Not that I'm disagreeing with you exactly, but to continue with the comparison the storm is more notable than Ophelia (though much less info is available). —
jdorje (
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08:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)reply
As it is, it should be merged, badly. However, there could be enough information out there to justify an article, the reconaissance section in particular. There should be more on damage as well... it was practically a Category 4 landfall! I say we give it a week. Storm05, does that sound fair?
Hurricanehink21:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)reply
Several sources claim 125 mph or 135 mph winds were felt on land from this storm. However, the source reports no hurricane-force winds on land. So what gives? —
jdorje (
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23:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)reply
"A second reconnaissance flight reported a strengthened tropical cyclone, indicating that the storm system had strengthened to tropical storm strength." - Strengthened, strengthened, strength. Repetitive much?
"The US Weather Bureau issued their first advisory on the newly developed tropical storm at 1600 UTC later that day, giving the storm the name Helene." - I thought they started after recon went in? Or are bulletins different than advisories?
"Steadily intensifying, the tropical storm attained hurricane intensity by 2200 UTC on 2200 UTC on September 24, while located 425 mi (685 km) east of Fort Pierce, Florida." - No need for the lead-in. You already say it was intensifying in the previous sentences.
"At the time, gale force winds extended up to 220 mi (355 km) out from the storm's center of circulation.[2]" - Dash between gale and force. Just a regular one.
"The lack of strong steering currents in the storm's vicinity caused the hurricane to move very slowly throughout the day, giving the hurricane time to significantly intensify." - You sure do mention how the storm strengthened a lot in this MH..
"Gale warning issuance reflected the changes and were too shifted northwards to the Virginia Capes area, while hurricane watches covered both warning areas." - Northward.
"Despite not issuing any warnings, the Weather Bureau cautioned interests in Newfoundland and forecasted hurricane-force winds to effect the island" - Comma after Newfoundland.
"Effects from Helene in South Carolina were less severe than in North Carolina, with the hurricane making its closest approach to the state on September 27, 85 mi (135 km)." - Am confus.