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This page is a partial derivative of this translation effort. So if you know some German you can help this article by helping to translate that one. Mike92591 02:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I have made some changes including quite a few links, and also changed some of the wording, which might have come through the translation process in the German word order. Maybe the copyedit tag can be removed now, but I'll leave it for someone with a bit more of an eye for detail to do. Peashy 13:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I did the proofread, added the badge, and will take this article off the "to be proofread" list. I think some questions about the article remain, including a need for better referencing. For example, the quote at the end of the "The name Linux" section has no reference, though I assume it's from Torvalds's book.
This is my first attempt knocking off an article from the proofread list; please make additional changes as necessary, and please contact me (my talk page, etc.) with any feedback. Thanks. — Beverson 21:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking it would be helpful to change the title of this to "History of the Linux kernel" to make it more clear, because it's only a history of the kernel, and not the whole Linux (or GNU/Linux) operating system. Guyjohnston 13:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
It's supposed to be about the whole operating system (that is if we are to translate it) therefor "History of the Linux" is the correct name. Mike92591 20:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
From above "It's supposed to be about the whole operating system", but the lead suggests otherwise. Does anyone know what this article is supposed to be about? And following on, what would be needed to get it to GA status? 87.114.8.169 ( talk) 18:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
The GNU stuff is irrelevant to the kernel history. Let's keep this kernel-specific.
Things I'd like to see added as the article progresses:
I'd also like to see this cover the complete kernel history. As this was originally split out from another article it really only covers the early history of the kernel. By expanding it we could remove a lot of listcruft from Linux kernel. Chris Cunningham 12:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I put the copy-edit tag back on -- there are still some German(?) words and funny word orders. I think several people should read the article and try to correct it as much as possible; especially, any person who knows enough German(?) to translate the words which are left. Goldsmitharmy 08:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be quite a lot of confusion between the kernel 'Linux' and the complete operating system 'Linux' or 'GNU/Linux' on this page. It seems that it's supposed to be about the whole operating system, judging from the German article. I don't speak German, so I can't help with the translation, but I'll start doing some copy editing, and try to get rid of some of the confusion. It also looks like quite a lot of this history is repeated on the main Linux page, so a lot of that should probably be removed and just appear on this page. Guyjohnston 18:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The first para of this section under the heading Criticism is gobbelajook. Don't know enough to fix it.-- Shtove 20:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Through some looking around I found that gobbelajook means the excessive use of jargon to make others seem inferior. I can see what your saying although, I don't think it was done to make anyone seem inferior. I'll try to fix it up a little. Mike92591 20:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
It has actually been in Wikipedia:Requests for translation for a while now. You are certainly right about the quality of the translation, it's bad. Mike92591 00:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Someone who can properly translate the German(?) towards the end of the timeline should probably do so. Thanks :) Lavid 21:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)lavid
Needs the version history. I only found out today that Linux had gone straight from 0.03 to 0.10 - David Gerard 18:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The pre-history section is good. The environment that the kernel was born into, and the situations that lead to it being launched (and it being possible i.e. gcc) are absolutely worth a mention. I'll re-add it and review the content. -- Gronky 21:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
History/data Bettyjolly24 ( talk) 05:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
This should be fixed shortly. I don't actually disagree with the move, though of course it would have been nice if it had been discussed recently. Chris Cunningham 10:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I've just posted a message to Mike29591, asking him to fix the following errors that slipped into the "Competition of Microsoft" paragraph he seems to have added last October 18th:
- Redeyed Treefrog ( talk) 18:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The following sentence from the last paragraph of "Competition from Microsoft" doesn't make any sense to me.
"In the context of the virtualization was agreed upon to improve the exchange from Office documents and to simplify the Virtualization of the Enterprise solutions in each case under the competition product as well as the integration of Linux and Windows machines into a common directory structure to simplify."
Could someone figure out what it means and fix it?
PhoenixofMT (
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01:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I came here just because of the sentence quoted above ("In the context of the..."). The sentence is unconscionable; I'm deleting it. GrouchyDan ( talk) 18:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there a place where snapshots of previous Linux releases can be inspected? I assume so. I was looking for the history of technical developments in the Linux kernel and didn't find much information here. For example, when did these features appear in Linux? 1. Device driver interface 2. Dynamic linked libraries 3. Multiprocessor support 4. Virtual memory (and I recall quite a while later a big bug in VM was realized, it had never really been working because of too rapid page aging. That's worth mentioning.) 5. kernel threads (I mean preemptively scheduled threads, not user-mode coroutines) 6. asynchronous disk I/O 7. a journaling file system 8. events 9. syncrhonizatino primitives (interesting because UNIX didn't really have any at first, so how did Linux evolve some set, like semiphores appeared eventually in BSD). DonPMitchell ( talk) 17:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed couple sentences at the end of the "Events leading to creation" section that seem a litte out of place: "These factors of a lack of a widely-adopted, free kernel provided the impetus for Torvalds's starting his project. He has stated that if either the GNU or 386BSD kernels were available at the time, he likely would not have written his own."
I don't think Linus started with 386BSD, as per the interview with Linus when he started the Linux 386BSD was not available. Refer http://gondwanaland.com/meta/history/interview.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhanaraj0 ( talk • contribs) 13:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
My reasoning is that neither Torlvalds nor the Linux Project are mentioned in the article to up to that point. It's not a huge problem because Linus and Linux are introduce in the following paragraph, but it still seems kinda out of place to me. Perhaps it could be written along the lines of "These factors of a lack of a widely-adopted, free kernel provided the impetus for the creation of the Linux project." Kabukiman ( talk) 17:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
In "Events leading to creation" section Stallman is mentioned starting the GNU project with goal of creating POSIX-compatible system in 1983. POSIX itself was stndardized in 1988, so the goal of creating POSIX-compatible system couldn't be set in 1983. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.128.165.184 ( talk) 09:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, good point. Mike92591 ( talk) 22:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure which article (Linux distros, Linux history...) it belongs on but probably someone could do this.
The software architecture is simple — Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel. [1]
Marlasdad ( talk) 17:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I read the line
Development was done on Minix using the GNU C compiler, which is still the main choice for compiling Linux today
as meaning that the main choice for compiling the Linux kernel is still GCC on Minix. I'm pretty sure that's no longer the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.56.43.141 ( talk) 07:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know Linus was never a student of Tanenbaum like the Controversy section claims. I could find no sources to back that up and in fact Tanenbaum said this in the famous comp.os.minix debate: 'Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design :-)': http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/msg/625c4a78723eeef5
I'll remove that claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.167.76 ( talk) 19:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a missing step in the name section. LINIX was the original version of Linus' Minix. Linux was a play on Linus' name. CD-Host ( talk) 16:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Please remove this chapter after fixing the main article.
Ari Lemmke (that's me, later on arl) has never been worker (or even co-working for Linus Torvalds) in University of Helsinki - even though one project promised couple of hours consulting payment for me as a worker in University of Helsinki, but never got any pay ... arl was working in Helsinki University of Technology (HUT).
Personally think Linux was released when Linus downloaded Linux to Funet FTP server. And that date is its birthday. After that everyone could download and read the source. That date is around 2011-09-11 ;-)
Please notice also that it was through email exchange (arl<->linus) Linus thought GPL would suit for him and not to do closed source commercial OS. That was through he realized he does not want to do commercial business - lot's of work and quite minimal market - there was quite a many unices around one could buy.
//arl
Please remove this chapter after fixing the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.183.132.2 ( talk) 14:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much in this article about the development of linux itself. When wax x windows ported? How has linux evolved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.60.130.68 ( talk) 23:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I've removed that claim. Whether he got the memo from Linus that NSA didn't really ask him to do anything is besides the point as Nils Torvalds is a politician and thus not a reliable source for this article. Nils claims go into his biography if necessary, but don't belong here when they are clearly contradicted by the later/non-joking statement of Linus. Someone not using his real name ( talk) 01:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
This article states that it took 8 months to write the "first Linux." Is this correct?-- 78.170.189.26 ( talk) 12:46, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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Over the past few years, I've increasingly noticed people announcing the anniversary of Linux on the wrong date. The confusion seems to come from the other emails and newsgroup announcements that Linus made about how he was in the process of working on Linux or that he had released it already. These are the June, July, August and October dates that have been frequently referenced recently. However, the correct date for the actual source code being released to the public on the funet.fi FTP server is September 17th, 1991. Unfortunately it seems that since that time the timestamps on the tar.gz files themselves have not been preserved on that site. You can however see the original dates by looking at the preserved dates inside the tar file itself. Running the following command will show that the most recent dates in the file are 1991-09-17: wget -O- ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/linux-0.01.tar.gz | tar ztv | sort -k4 While this isn't definitive proof that he put it on the FTP site at that time, it shows that no further development from after September 17th went into the initial release, making an October release date less likely. -- Deltaray3 ( talk) 14:49, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
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Much of the content on this article is arguably _not_ history :(
IMO most if not all of this info should be integrated into Linux kernel Stevebroshar ( talk) 00:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)