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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 July 2023 re: Hebron Size
current text: "74,102 dunams (74.102 km2 or 28.611 sq mi)"
Whilst the article claims that Hebron is 74 km2; this is the larger Hebron metropolitan area. The Hebron municipality covers
22.5 km2.Shenkin25 (
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08:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Al-khalil al-rahman
It says at the top of the page "الخليل الرحمن" but this name doesn't seem accurate because it is grammatically wrong in Arabic. The name of the city is related to the nickname of Abraham in Islamic tradition. The same way in Judaism and Christian tradition, Abraham is called the patriarch. However, the word Khalil means "friend" in Arabic. It is often said "khalil al-rahman" (خليل الرحمن) meaning "friend of the God" but not "al-khalil al-rahman" (الخليل الرحمن) which wouldn't sound grammatically correct in Arabic.
Remove the name "الخليل الرحمن" completely because it isn't the name of the city but the nickname of Abraham in Islamic tradition. If you want to keep it then change it to "خليل الرحمن" although this is only the nickname of Abraham and not the city name.
41.47.212.155 (
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08:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I don't speak Arabic myself, but searching for this name finds quite a lot of Arabic web sites that use it. For example,
here it is used by the official Palestinian news agency. So it is hard to accept a claim that it is ungrammatical. On the other hand, I see just "Al-Khalil" much more commonly than "Al-Khalil Al-Rahman" and this should be mentioned if it can be properly sourced.
Zerotalk13:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)reply
That's probably a mistake, most sources say "خليل الرحمن" not "الخليل الرحمن". Including sources from the same agency.
It just doesn't sound correct to any person who speak Arabic to say "Al-Khalil Al-Rahman", instead, it is "Khalil Al-Rahman" which means friend of Al-Rahman. While Al-Khalil Al-Rahman would mean The friend Al-Rahman which would be like referring to Al-Rahman (God) as a friend, not to another person as a friend of God.
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Zero0000: Al-Khalil Al-Rahman doesn't sound gramatically correct alone indeed. It could sound correct when it is added to a city, such as in the article by WAFA, مدينة الخليل الرحمن, i.e. "the city of Al-Khalil Al-Rahman". But for a standalone nickname, such as in first sentence, "Khalil Al-Rahman" should be good.
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15:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)reply
It appears factual and supported by the sources. If your concerns fall within the parameters of the Israel–Palestinian conflict then it is not permitted for this discussion to be had by non-extended confirmed users.
Iskandar323 (
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09:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Even if Craigieburn was 100% Punjabi, it would still be an Australian city. Even if Tamara's next book is called "Finding Love in Craigieburn, a Palestinian City" it will still be Australian.