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Im a bit to lazy to find the actual interview (MTV Multiplayer go look it up) but you've all probably heard the outrage of Microsoft killing Bungie's reveal at e3.
But wouldn't you know some retard at Microsoft said "Yes! bungie is making a new halo game!"
and before you all say "ITS HALO WARS! ITS HALO: CHRONICLES! OMGWTFBQQSAUCE GTFO!"
MTV multiplayer asked if MS was talking about Halo Wars or Halo Chronciles and MS said. no. completely diffrent game
also Bungie did state they were going to reveal something (did not mention halo though)
so i think you should just stick that under new games or under development.
because Bungie state they WILL reveal it later. May as well get that area prepped.
Real or fake? It's currently contested. It looks like it might have been an April fools day joke, but it would get Bungie alot of money. Hard to call this one. -
72.141.197.83 (
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15:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
i have looked around the internet and found that there is no definite answer to the ilovebees.com. I think that someone shound try to obtain an official statement from bungie/microsoft to finalize the whole ilovebees things, especiall because its hurting my head. —Preceding
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66.167.231.189 (
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23:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Noahs Ark Reference
This page forgets to mention the fact that the game refers to Noahs Ark in that the Covenant are trying to find The Ark to escape The Flood and how the refer to an age of rebirth.—Preceding
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67.185.254.229 (
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Adding every reference to every mythology / legend / other creative works that Bungie makes during Halo would quickly make the article incredibly long. It would probably all be original research as well (a no go for wikipedia). The only place I can think of that has even noted things like this is the halo wikia site. We can't cite that. Everyone else just thought "oh yeah, it does make references to that" and didn't make any special article or anything about it. --
RC Master (
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23:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Machinima Additions
I added some information to the Machinima section concerning the development of machinima after the release of Halo 3. If you have anything to discuss, stick it in here.
Racooon (
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08:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I would like to bring up
Halopedia as an external link. It's on a wikia premise and is very informative to those looking for Halo-based information.Lovemuffin333 03:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Generally other wiki's are frowned upon. Though if the content is reliable and it can provide additional information outside of the content in the article if it were FA, then it can be an exception. (
Guyinblack25talk19:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC))
There are some links to Halopedia on Halo pages, but as Halopedia does not have a good page on the series as a whole, it makes little sense to link to it.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (
talk)19:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Halopedia has too much information on the Halo series to make it into one page. It gives pages with extensive detail and information on each of the games. It has legitimate information and does not make jokes about. Manticore is an administrator to the site and he and other administrators keep the site in check for these pages on the Halo games. Lovemuffin33322:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
We do link to Halopedia, just not on this page because there is no directly corresponding page which is good. The games
Halo: Combat Evolved,
Halo 2 and
Halo 3 all have links to Halopedia and it is a really good site, but if it has too much info to add to one page about the Halo series then we shouldn't link to it on this particular article.
James086Talk |
Email23:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like at least a mention should be included in the article. We'll look into putting something in from the sources you provided. Thanks. (
Guyinblack25talk15:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC))
Probably under the "Main trilogy", in the paragraph concerning the original game. Unless we were to add an "Origins" section, but that seems like an unnecesarry adition at this point. Blackngold2923:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Trilogy vs (Original) series
I think we need to pick one term and stick to it, in reference to Halo, H2, and H3. It is sometimes called the "trilogy" and other times the video game series. We should probably establish this in the intro paragraph as well. Suggestions? Blackngold2915:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. The article name, 'Halo (series)', is most certainly a factual inconsistency. It should be renamed to, 'Halo (trilogy)'.
Paulmarv (
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06:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
This wasn't referring to the article itself, just three original games that constitute part of the scope of the article. This article most definitely covers more than the original trilogy; there's no reason to rename it. —
TKD::{talk}08:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I would think it should be removed, upon a revival of the project (which may or may not happen) we can easily put it back in. Blackngold2915:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
As there were two for H2 it seems kind of misleading to start the paragraph off "Three soundtracks...have been released based on the Halo game series". I guess technically there are three soundtracks, however there have been four releases. This is probably a pretty small detial, but any thoughts? Blackngold2915:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the inclusion of the Halo DS section necessary? If we're going to exclude the movie because it has been all but canceled, shouldn't this get the same treatment? Or perhaps move it to another section (Spinoffs perhaps)? Blackngold2904:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I've been bouncing the DS thing around in my head since I read up on the Gizmondo links above. How about this—shoot it down if it may not work—what if we moved the Halo DS content to the "Development" section, combine it with some of the content about the Gizmondo version, and rename it as "Unreleased games" or something? Any thoughts? (
Guyinblack25talk17:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC))
If we add that should be throw a line about the movie in there too? I kind of see the two (movie and DS) on the same level. Blackngold2920:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
It's probably ok where it is. There's enough content for it to stand on its own and I think it fits better with the "Printed adaptations" in the "Merchandise" section. Take a look at the update and see if everything flows ok. (
Guyinblack25talk20:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC))
The
Alternate reality games section seems mislabled. The small paragraph goes on to discuss The Cortana Letters, I Love Bees and Iris. The opening sentence claims "Alternate reality games were used to promote the release of the games in the main trilogy." however the only alternative reality game mentioned is I Love Bees. Perhaps the section should be expanded and changed to "Marketing", in which case it could/should be expanded. Blackngold2902:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I've thought about this too, but since I Love Bees and Iris (it just isn't explicitly stated as such) are alternate reality games, it still seem somewhat suitable where it is. I wouldn't be opposed to a move, but you're right, it would need a lot more content to be a well-balanced marketing section. (
Guyinblack25talk04:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC))
Another handheld rumor
There was a rumor that Microsoft was creating a handheld Xbox and that Halo would be a game for it. A leaked video showed a handheld playing Halo. This device actually turned out to be the
Ultra-Mobile PC.
[4][5][6]
What aspect of the games is supposed to be addressed in this section? It seems like it gives the release dates and then goes on to repeat the Common elements section. Should we give the release dates and editions and eliminate the actual gameplay content? Thoughts? Blackngold2923:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
In a "Games" section, we should give an overview of the game, kinda like a trimmed down lead, and mention what makes the game unique. Because the games share so many themes, it's probably ok to keep each paragraph short. However, I think the "Common elements" section should focus less on the progression of the elements and more on what is common in the entire series. That to me explains how each one is different rather than common. This will allow for more info to into the games section. (
Guyinblack25talk14:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC))
New source to add to an appropriate article
Kevin Rorabaugh, “How Hardcore Are You? Your proudest gaming moments: The next contestant in our monthly harder-core-than-thou competition arrives!” in Electronic Gaming Monthly 228 (May 2008): 10. Made a potato launching replica of the M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher from Halo; features a photograph as well and set aside from other letters to the editor in special colored box in magazine Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho!16:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Rumors are not credible to be added anywhere on this site. Unless a reliable source comes up with an article about it, then H4 shouldn't be mentioned. Blackngold2923:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
They recently hinted at another possible Halo game (apart from the ones that we already know about) in their most recent vidoc.
UKWikiGuy (
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19:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Pete Wentz's claims about Halo are irrelevant and useless. He may be a celebrity, but his opinion on this subject is no more relevant than the opinion given by a random high school student. In fact, the random high school student's opinion is probably more relevant. I will wait a bit to see if someone can come up with a real reason to keep this claim, otherwise I will remove it. It deviates from the point, contains no substantial information, and its truth (or agreeableness) is highly debatable. Certainly within the field of "gaming" most "gamers" would probably read that sentence and say: "I dont care what pete wentz has to say about halo, in fact its mere mention makes me angry." The sentence is therefore detrimental to the cultural impact section (it turns readers off, and makes them question the article as a whole). please debate me, but I doubt anyone can come up with a meaningful and successful argument. I have rewritten this little paragraph probably 8 times, using many different arguments against the inclusion of this sentence. I see no reason for keeping it, and, as a gamer, it stood out like a sore thumb as worthless fan drivel.
Gordonliu420 (
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04:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I can't help but detect a bit of frustration in your comments. Is this a topic you've been trying to deal with on this page before? Forgive me if my observation is off the mark.
Anyway, back on point. While I agree that Pete Wentz is not seen as a video game authority, I believe the context in which his statement was made is the main reason it is included. He said those words at the unveiling of the Master Chief wax sculpture at
Madame Tussauds in
Las Vegas. Pete Wentz was the person chosen to reveal the sculpture at the official unveiling ceremony.
As a gamer myself (though never played Halo), I really wasn't that turned off or angry to read his comments, and I'm sure I'm not alone. And while I sure there are a fair number of gamers that might be mad at reading it, Wikipedia articles are written for everybody; no audience trumps another.
The article has also been through a failed Featured article candidacy. And while it did not pass, the main reason was for poorly written prose. No mention of Pete Wentz's statement one way or another was made. (
Guyinblack25talk14:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC))
Another point, the article mentions that it was Pete Wentz who said it (not just saying "the Master Chief has been compared to ...") so readers can judge themselves whether they agree with him. You (Gordonliu420) obviously don't trust Pete Wentz' judgement but another person might and there is a link to his article if they don't know who he is. It is left up to the reader whether to trust the source of that comparison.
James086Talk |
Email14:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The part comparing Halo to Star Wars really needs to go. Ask people on the street to name more then one character from Halo, then ask them to name some from Star Wars —Preceding
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192.88.212.44 (
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13:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Merge whole or don't merge - As this game will come out eventually, and since there will probably be an announcement within a few months with a lot more details, we don't want to trim this down and then have to expand it back out. So either merge it whole, or keep it where it is and let it grow, which it definitely will.
Judgesurreal777 (
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04:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
There isn't really that much to merge, that entire "article" can be easily merged into the "Spin-offs and sequels" subsection. -
Caribbean~H.Q.05:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Something to keep in mind is that new articles related to the
Halo trilogy Featured topic could be cause for the topic to become delisted. Though the topic name refers to a "trilogy", I'm sure some might wonder why
Halo: Chronicles,
Halo Wars, and
New Halo Project don't belong in there. The
Kingdom Hearts Featured topic is currently in a
retention period until the three unreleased game articles can be audited. See
discussion for more details.
It may actually be better to merge until some more information is released. That's what we did for the Kingdom Hearts articles.(
Guyinblack25talk15:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC))
Well, but that's the point. I would rather overwrite the Trilogy topic with a 'games' topic or the Halo media topic; but I don't think the trilogy is endangered by its existing as a stub right now.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (
talk)17:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
For now, let's not merge, as Halo (series) is going for FA, and it doesn't need this kind of extra, game specific information, especially since we'll just have to pull it back out later when there is more news.
Judgesurreal777 (
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23:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Cortana Letters
Pedantic:
The text explaining the Cortana letters is only accurate in the broadest sense of the word "prior". The letters were sent out in 1999, and meant to generate buzz around Bungie's initial incarnation of Halo. Microsoft's buyout of Bungie changed those plans, and they have little to do with the product that Bungie actually released in 2001. The IGN article's attribution of the Cortana Letters to Halo's buzz doesn't entirely hold together, esp since the individual responsible for the letters left bungie in Oct 1999.
http://marathon.bungie.org/story/cortana.html71.74.156.227 (
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05:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)TDK
IGN's reliably is not the real issue. Wikipedia's interpretation of what IGN stated is the issue. The final cortana letter was sent 11 months prior to Microsoft's buyout of Bungie, and a full 28 months prior to the actual release. The claim "...were circulated by Bungie prior to Halo: Combat Evolved's release" implies a much closer chronology and stronger casual relationship than the IGN article would suggest, especially given that there is no documentation of either Microsoft or Bungie conducting any additional "guerilla marketing/ARG gaming" surrounding Halo between November 1999 and summer of 2004 (ilovebees for Halo 2). A much more likely/conservative interpretation of IGN's statement is that the letters were written to generate buzz for Bungie's debut of Halo in July of 1999. This is the change I've made (and I feel better about it too :) ).
71.74.156.227 (
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07:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)TDK
Image copyright problem with Image:First official halo screenshot.jpg
The image
Image:First official halo screenshot.jpg is used in this article under a claim of
fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the
requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an
explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
That there is a
non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
That this article is linked to from the image description page.
I question the reliability of that site, as the story apparently broke on April 1, 2008 and I have seen no other evidence anywhere to back it up. If the movie ever happens it will be a major deal and I'm sure that at least a few video game sites (IGN, GameSpot, etc.) would've picked up on something. Blackngold2923:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Halo film (part 2)
The e-mail of the person who wrote that webpage is on the webpage I provided. Get in contact with him and he can provide evidence. The is: mayimbe@latinoreview.com. Besides even if he can't provide evidence we don't need to say we are sure the information is true, we will clearly state the information is based on rumours. If this Halo page I am requesting is made then it will be a popular page... —Preceding
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Bill Bon Jovi (
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08:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
I didn't add the information myself either until I saw
Kasra Farahani (Wolfman remake, Hancock, Spider-Man 3) had created concept art for it. So should his work and Beattie's new script be mentioned, because those are cases when self-published sources like Latino Review are most certainly reliable.
Alientraveller (
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15:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't meet
WP:SPS or
WP:RS. Latino Review does not have established editorial processes, and we only have their word that it's actually concept art by the artist; the image looks more like cheap 3D images than concepts.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (
talk)16:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Latino Review was interviewed by Empire once and it's amazing how many scripts they can get (The Dark Knight was the only script they were unable to get ahold of last year). They managed to get Paramount to hire Beattie to rewrite G.I. Joe. So if they get word someone's written a spec script, it's pretty verifiable. Would it be ok if I cited Total Film to support the current cite?
Alientraveller (
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16:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I think there should possibly be an extension to the Halo merchandise section in order to include other Halo related items that haven't yet been mentioned. Aside from the Halo media, I myself have 5 different Halo posters that I have purchased from
Gamestop. You can find these posters online at sites like
All Posters. Other merchandise I have seen is that
Gamestop for a while had sold a
Halo special edition Xbox 360, a
Spartan Xbox 360 controller, Halo hats, a
missile organizer case, and action figures as well. And though I can't find it now, I know that
Bungie's main website had an online store. They also sold Halo merchandise such as sweatshirts, pens, coffee mugs, and even backpacks that were all related to Halo.
If you find reliable sources that suggest it is worthy of mention, bring it here. Otherwise it's minutiae which isn't that important to overall understanding of the topic.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (
talk)20:35, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Sources?
"Four additional games, one stand-alone and a 'new trilogy', are planned to continue the series." Where's the source? Or can soemone at least explain what they are?
69.125.120.10 (
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02:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
This page is of the Halo Universe and I think that the fan-made game Halo Zero should be mentiones. If you want to see what Halo Zero is search for it in
Halopedia.
UNSC 405th (
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22:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
controversy and marketing of halo 1 before release
i remember an uproar about this game many many years ago, when microsoft bought the whole thing and didn't release it for pc. does anyone know more about it? —Preceding
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91.15.133.41 (
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03:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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