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..you can email him now for your own healing too on his email: He is always able to help you get your heart desire granted................ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tubyd21 ( talk • contribs) 00:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
If this is the case, then it may very well be suggested that their illicit status contributes to transmission of the disease - when shunned by a society who considers their occupation to be "illegal", they do not receive the education, services, contraceptives or other things necessary to stop HIV transmission. Thus, making sex workers illegal actually creates the problem, rather than the actual problem being with sex workers themselves, as the article tends to suggest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.69.86 ( talk) 02:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
The article says that black women are 19 times as likely as white women to become infected with HIV. I think that it should read "HIV infection is 19 times as prevalent among black women than among white women." The way it is currently written makes it sound as though a black woman who has sex with Mr. A, an HIV positive man, is 19 times as likely to become HIV positive than her white friend would be if she had sex with Mr. A. Although I am not a medical professional, my gut feeling is that skin pigmentation doesn't affect one's HIV vulnerability.
Now, to the extent that most people who engage in high-risk behavior tend to do so with members of their own ethnic group - that would be the reason why different ethnic groups have different HIV infection rates. Blood transfusions would be an obvious exception, and a great example of where race doesn't affect one's chances of becoming infected with the virus. (Most people don't choose sexual partners completely at random with regards to ethnicity, whereas race is irrelevant in blood transfusions. (Only blood type / rh compatibility matters, not ethnicity or gender or whatever.)) 208.105.23.214 ( talk) 15:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Its not skin pigmentation per se that has the effect- rather it is the cultural differences among the black community in the United States. Black men are more likely to be "on the down low" (i.e. in the closet) than any other race, due to their cultural views on masculinity, among other things. Therefore, they tend not to get tested regularly as a component of the cultural phenomenon, which tends to promote the infection vector. In any event, the CDC statistics support the fact that black and Latino people have higher infection rates than other races. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:33, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I see that the last comment in talk on this page is almost a year ago. Nobody is talking any more. This article is abandoned, not in conflict, ignored, or what? The comcepts here cry out for discussion, as in the main AIDS article, but it seems to be ignored. -- Dumarest 21:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Replaced this assertion
Gay activists opposed the GRID name from the outset, as having homosexuals identified as being disease carriers was at odds with the political goals of gaining acceptance for homosexuality. Their protests, combined with early evidence that the disease was not specific to gay men, resulting in the CDC renaming the syndrome AIDS, for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, in 1982.
I don't know of any evidence that "gay activists" had anything to do with the name change (and it certainly does not square with my recollection of that history): in fact, the name was changed when it became apparent it was incorrect, and that the disease was not restricted to gay men. (And how logical would it have been to object to replacing "Gay Cancer" with "GRID" in the first place?) -- Someone else 07:28 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)
You still should have left the full acronym and the year of change in the text. I replaced them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.150.28.34 ( talk) 07:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
I added this page to Category:LGBT history as it is currently mostly about, after all, a major part of gay history in America (that is, not a history exclusively belonging to gay people but a history that points toward modern attitudes regarding gay people and modern gay identity). I'm totally open to debate on the matter though. - Seth Mahoney 19:32, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
Fro some reason this article ends with Magic Johnson catching AIDS and the Ryan White foundation. Is there nothing to add about the last ten or twenty years? Did part of the article get cut off by accident? - Willmcw 08:48, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't see any reason to have this article in that category so I'm removing it. 80.203.115.12 05:00, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Sure. I believe it belongs for the following reasons, but I am open to input.
What do you think? 70.57.82.114 21:05, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
I think it belongs in the category due to the fact that the higher infection rates are promoted by lack of testing, which in turn is most likely promoted by cultural aspects inherent to African Americans, if we are to take the CDC's statistics. You can read more about that here: https://www.hiv.gov/federal-response/ending-the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-in-america 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:37, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Google give 24 hits for 'LaRouche "Prevent AIDS Now Initiative Committee"', doesn't seem to be notable at all. 80.203.115.12 05:07, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Cut from the article:
The term homophobia implies irrational fear. I'm not sure Wikipedia is in a position to say that it is "irrational" to fear the transmission of a usually fatal disease. Whether we can assert that it is normal or rational to fear anything may also be up for grabs.
Better to say that certain advocates objected to the linking of AIDS with homosexuality, and to described their objections. (If all they ever said was Associating AIDS with homoxuality boosts homophobia then we can quote them as saying just that, but I'm fairly sure that a quick googling session will uncover their actual reasoning.)
I'd like to put back part of this passage right away, though, because it's a relatively unchallenged fact that anal intercourse is a major factor in transmitting AIDS. There is the directly related question about "unprotected" anal sex: i.e., how useful are condoms? Do they break, slip off, contain tiny holes? Do men forget to use them? (And if so, what does this say for the effectiveness of condom use as a disease-prevention strategy? (like seatbelts vs. airbags) There is also the related furor over whether HIV really does cause AIDS or not. Uncle Ed 22:51, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
The broad brush charge of "homophobia" towards anyone who objects to homosexual relations or or fails to support efforts of the homosexual movement is basically a political psychological tactic and is often economically (at least) harmful to those who are labeled such, and should have no place in a encyclopedia except as describing the opinion certain persons. But to suggest that a segment of society actually believes that any who oppose them are fearful of them, or of being one of them is to suggest a irrational psychological condition on the part of those who believe this. Grace and peace thru the Lord Jesus ( talk) 13:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
I would also tend to support that. It is a fundamental misuse of the word root "-Phobia" at the core and brux of the issue, which tends to display scientific ignorance, if nothing else. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Here is MenStuff.org's point of view on the subject:
That is true, though it is fundamentally misleading as well as intellectually dishonest. but it is indisuptable that the highest rates of infection occur among homosexual men- therefore homosexuality IS an influential infection vector for HIV, if we're to give the CDC's data credence. I would tend to give the CDC preferential treatment as an authority on the subject matter, due to their extensive medical qualifications which surpass that of the citation example you referenced there. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:53, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
AlexR reverted all my changes yesterday, with only the following comment:
Sorry, Alex, but I don't understand your point here. Please explain why you reverted all my changes. In particular, was there some way in which one or more of my changes failed to acknowledge the perception (by some) that AIDs was perceived as a "homosexual disease"? And if so, what is the best way to discuss the " gay disease" perception?
If not in AIDS in the United States, perhaps in Gay disease or other related articles? Uncle Ed 14:49, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
Ed, we know you think you have something to add to any page touching on the subject of your bete noir, homosexuality, but the sad truth is your changes rarely improve any of the articles. On this talk page alone you confuse etymology with meaning, demonstrate that you are uninformed about measures which have been proven to decrease HIV transmission, and demonstrate that you are confused about whether there is a "furor" about what causes AIDS. I in my turn am perplexed by something you've added to the article: "Many people have strong feelings about AIDS and its causes". The cause of AIDS is well-known, and it is facts, not feelings that are important. You also seem to be forking articles, creating a mess that others will have to clean up. Rather than demanding that someone justifies returning the article to its "pre-Ed" state, you should be discussing such bold changes before making them. As none of your suggested changes and cuts seem to improve the article, I'm returning it to its "pre-Ed" state. - Outerlimits 17:32, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
That would be correct- when you make changes to other user's edits without explaining why in the edit summary, it can be viewed as vandalism, as one should be able to explain why they reverted an edit. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:55, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
The reference to the boy who was retroactively diagnosed with AIDS in 1969 is from a government website. There is a sentence, un-cited, directly after it saying that it was later confirmed that he did not have AIDS. the NIH website (which has the original reference) has more than one citation for people believed to have AIDS or a similar disease prior to 1970. Should we remove the following, contradictory statement? 66.65.55.108 04:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
This- "The pattern of the AIDS outbreak itself, has been gravely affected, and even strongly determined, by the outcomes of a program of 'planned shrinkage' directed in African-American and Hispanic communities, and implemented through systematic and continuing denial of municipal services--particularly fire extinguishment resources--essential for maintaining urban levels of population density and ensuring community stability.[2]" is an implausible conspiracy theory. As the article on Planned Shrinkage itself points out, planned shrinkage was never implemented in any urban area. It's hard to see how an unimplemented proposal could affect the epidemiology of a disease. The source cited simply provides an abstract, i.e., conclusions and no evidence. This passage should be deleted unless positive evidence of the actual implementation of planned shrinkage can be found. The following statement- "Institutionalized racism affects general health care as well as acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) health intervention and services in minority communities. The national response to the AIDS epidemic in minority communities has been slow, showing an insensitivity to ethnic diversity in prevention efforts and AIDS health services-" is another bald assertion quoted verbatim from a scholarly abstract without reference to evidence. These two assertions are extreme and controversial, and more evidence for them should be shown if they are to be included. Spccarp 05:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the US has a complete ban on immigrants and visitors who have HIV/AIDS; however, this article seems to imply that it is a strong restriction and that infected people can still get in. Does anyone know anything about this?-- World's Vortex ( talk) 11:56, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
We need new charts, these are out of date. 61.7.185.172 ( talk) 00:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
The latest infographics have now been put in place. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 23:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
In this edit, an IP editor added "... blacks are more sexually egregious than other races." I'm not seeing "egregious" in either the summary source URL, or the Times story. I've tagged it as POV for the time being, and will have a full read through of the two sources and do some cleanup, but I'm planning to remove it again. - Optigan13 ( talk) 06:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that the CDC statistics from 2017 onward tend to support the notion, and rather strongly allude to the point. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone have an idea where this should go in the article? I tried to put it in the text with supporting footnote but it was taken out by an editor who thought it "implies that HIV is not communicable". See History. BruceSwanson ( talk) 23:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
As of January 4, 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention removed HIV infection from the list of communicable diseases of public health significance, indicating that, while HIV is a serious infection, "it is not a communicable disease that is a significant public health risk for introduction, transmission, and spread through casual contact". From the same date, HIV status ceased to be a factor considered in the granting of visas to travel to the United States. [2]
On January 4, 2010, the United States Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention removed HIV status as a factor to be considered in the granting of travel visas, and also removed it from their list of diseases that are significant for public health reasons based on its low risk of being spread through casual contact.
Here is the exact language of the first two sentences of the Final Rule from the CDC website:
1. SUMMARY: On November 2, the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (HHS/CDC), published a Final Rule in the Federal Register that will remove HIV infection from the list of communicable diseases of public health significance and remove references to HIV from the scope of medical examinations for aliens. The final rule will go into effect on January 4, 2010.
And here's what I added to the article:
As of January 4, 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made effective a Final Rule in the Federal Register removing HIV infection from the list of communicable diseases of public health significance and removing references to HIV from the scope of medical examinations for aliens.
Just for the record. BruceSwanson ( talk) 16:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Simply mentioning travel visas, and not the context which provided the reason why, is not an improvement. And the link itself was dead. I thus provided a current CDC page as the ref and added the context of this ruling, and made it clear what was being rescinded and why. Grace and peace thru the Lord Jesus ( talk) 14:28, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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On an article on a deadly disease why would Public perception (first section) be the primary focus? Is this the norm for other diseases? And why is By Race/Ethnicity a subsection of it? It makes this article look like it has a political agenda, and in any case it is misplaced, and should be under Current status. These two topics are followed by Containment with its subs Travel restrictions and Medicine disbursement, then finally Mortality and morbidity and Current status.
I think most readers want to know what the status of the disease itself is in the US, and that it would make more sense if a basic history of the disease itself was first, followed by Current status section, and a Mortality and morbidity subsection, with a historical trajectory. Then a history of the response by the government and country overall, including Containment with its subs Travel restrictions and Medicine disbursement could follow. Grace and peace thru the Lord Jesus ( talk) 02:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I would ordinarily tend to agree that the political aspirations need to be removed from the article insofar as possible. However, Race and Ethnicity is a distinguished and notable variable in the CDC's infection-rate data that simply cannot be glossed over if we're to give the subject matter any serious treatment. Also, in the United States there has been a sort of melding of the government's efforts to deal with the disease, and the political climate concerning the whole thing that is so intertwined that I don't think the two can be completely seperated at this point if we're to give the article a thoroughness that isn't so profoundly intellectually dishonest that it fails under its own ponderosity. 66.90.153.184 ( talk) 04:49, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
In the "Containment" section, I added a subsection on public health policies that have been brought up as a result of the HIV/AIDS epidemic. This includes President Reagan's Commission on the HIV Epidemic, President Clinton's National AIDS Strategy, and President Obama's National HIV/AIDS Strategy for the United States. Tbeglarian ( talk) 17:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Ronald Reagan#RfC. Sdkb ( talk) 18:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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