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Glan Conwy → Llansanffraid Glan Conwy – This is the name of both the
settlement and
community.
Glan Conwy is the name of a place near
Betws-y-Coed. There is a Commons category for "Glan Conwy" for the village and "Llansanffraid Glan Conwy" for the community, I think this is because it was thought that Glan Conwy was the name of the village and Llansanffraid Glan Conwy the name of the community, but the village appears to also be Llansanffraid Glan Conwy. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 17:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.Galobtter (
pingó mió)
06:59, 26 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I have fixed the Commons category by qualifying the community, putting the village at "Llansanffraid Glan Conwy" and turning Glan Conwy into a DAB page. I'm not sure if a DAB page will be needed here as the place called Glan Conwy is lower than an OS settlement. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
11:55, 24 August 2018 (UTC)reply
If we don't have an article on the other Glan Conwy, and if this one is also known by the shorter name too, do we need to use the longer name? I'm of two minds.
Andrewa (
talk)
11:46, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
That's like the example given at
WP:CONCISE of Rhode Island, but "Rhode Island" is the name its nearly always called by sources (both primary and secondary such as maps), while in this case the longer name is more formal and common, as can be seen also from a quick Google Search. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
13:50, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The point that with Stourport the longer name is used by mainstream sources, but that's not for Rhode Island. There are lots of redirects from short names, see
Category:Redirects from short names, if there even was a mention about the place near Betws-y-Coed the a {{redirect}} hat could be used but that doesn't mean this shouldn't be moved, we haven't moved
Microsoft Windows to
Windows etc. The current name is an informal and incomplete name. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
14:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
If you go further along the list there are many that aren't covered by NCROY. Similar to
Thames and
Merthyr for example. The point about Windows is that the Mircosoft shouldn't be moved to the short name even if primary for "Windows". Crouch, Swale (
talk)
08:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The place near Betws-y-Coed appears to be insignificant, such that we'd never have an article for it, and since the
WP:COMMONNAME and
WP:CONCISE name for this town is indeed "Glan Conwy", we should just leave it as is. —
Amakuru (
talk)
13:53, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
It's IMO best for the closer if we just leave the discussion above where it is and continue there in need, but any new threads should start down here, and I would not object to refactoring to leave the
survey at the top as is more conventional.
Andrewa (
talk)
20:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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