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I see this edit, which includes the detail of her death in "Girl Meets Gravity", and an earlier edit by IJBall, which leaves this detail out. After thinking about it some, I somewhat agree with IJBall about leaving it out as an "unnecessary spoiler", and I think this is a common sense thing. But what are your thoughts on this sensitive detail being disclosed in her character description? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 17:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the plot" and "
When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an encyclopedic purpose is being served". Thus this info is like any other info about the character and should be treated as such. For any person, fictional or real the fact that they died is a key piece of bio info. It served an encylopedic purpose to include that info for this character description. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 17:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
This attempt at getting agreement appears to be unstable with too many different editors persisting in adding the info back. As stated this is an article consensus issue, not a policy or guideline issue, and consensus appears, by editor behavior, to want the info in the article. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 21:07, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Ijoshiexo changed the hidden comment and added Farkle's last name claiming that it was confirmed in the episode "Girl Meets Maya's Mom". I've seen that episode and it's correct. Stuart Minkus says that Farkle is his son and Lucas says something like "You're Farkle Minkus?" (can't really remember). Even though it was confirmed in this episode his last name never appears during end credits. But I do think it's acceptable to put Farkles' last name as they've already confirmed it.-- Chamith (talk) 01:52, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Something I just thought of: If and when Corey Fogelmanis becomes listed in the opening credits (while the theme music is playing at the beginning of the show), his character name (Farkle) will likely not be listed during that segment, as is the case with the other main cast members. Just the actor/actress name, not the character name alongside it. Most TV shows employ this in their openings, though there are plenty of exceptions, too—maybe one or two cast members in a show will stand out, and have their credit listed as "(actor/actress name) as (character name)". I still would leave Farkle's last name out, on the grounds stated in previous comments, in-universe trivia and not listed in the official credits.
It is considered in-universe trivia primarily because his last name is not notably stated throughout the show's run so far, unlike Matthews, Hart, or even Lucas' last name Friar (Cory in his class refers to him as Mr. Friar, but refers to Farkle as, Farkle). Despite Farkle's last name being clearly written in a "bumper" for the "Girl Meets Master Plan" episode (as user PeterAKer indicated here), it does not change the notability of his last name in comparison to the aforementioned. (I also notice in the recurring characters list Ava's last name being shown, when in the closing credits it never is; definitely should consider removing her last name in that list, per credits and the comparable lack of notability of the last name in the context of the show.)
Now regarding the official credits, I don't know if that will ever be changed to include Farkle's last name, as the opening credits I stated at the beginning of this comment likely will not list the character name. Though there could be that exception, but the character name if stated would have to include the last name to become record here. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 17:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
The show is the source. What happens onscreen is the highest form of canon for a tv show. They say his name, that means it is his name.
See File:Girl Meets World main characters.jpg metadata section for how Disney is crediting the main cast. Info in image description shows this is an official press release image of cast in character from the DisneyABC press site for show. The image was created 8 May 8, 2015 as shown in image metadata which reflects the EXIF data embedded in the image itself. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 15:11, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
"Girl Meets World" stars Rowan Blanchard as Riley Matthews, Ben Savage as Cory Matthews, Sabrina Carpenter as Maya Hart, Peyton Meyer as Lucas Friar, August Maturo as Auggie Matthews, Corey Fogelmanis as Farkle Minkus and Danielle Fishel as Topanga Matthews." Geraldo Perez ( talk) 17:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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I want to update the website on girl meets world, as it is far from up to date. 5.151.0.12 ( talk) 13:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I looked at updates to the guideline, and under
WP:TVCAST, it says this: The cast listing should not contain an episode count, e.g. (# episodes), to indicate the number of episodes in which the actor/character appeared. If an actor misses an episode due to a real world occurrence, such as an injury that prevents them from appearing, this info can be noted in the character's description or "Production" section with a reliable source.
I was also checking out the relevant discussion at
WT:MOSTV, under the section "Addendum to the Cast section", where consensus is clear on not using these episode counts, and such requires sourcing to verify (in the event of vandalism of these counts).
Per the updated MOS:TV guideline, I have removed the table depicting the episode counts of cast members from the article. I also saw in the table that it broke down the seasons each is in, which is unnecessary as all seven main cast members are in the two seasons to date.
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In the character section it says she gave the bakery to Topanga. In fact, in season one Topanga and Corey became part owners of the bakery to help save it from being taken over during Topanga legal battle with her boss, So Topanga was part owner of the bakery and assumed complete control upon Mrs. Svorski's death. 2601:18D:8402:3AD0:29F8:B8A1:7643:9E70 ( talk) 05:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
This edit, I reverted because of the reference cited, which is a fan site for Girl Meets World, and is thus unreliable. I had thoughts of finding better sources for this material, as articles are written about what is coming to Netflix, and I do remember GMW premiering there on August 23, 2015. However, I just think of it as trivia, as the series did not have a first-run premiere there; lots of TV shows and movies pop up on Netflix for on-demand streaming, and it is pointless to make mention on every article about a TV show or movie that has aired on Netflix about when it premiered, or how long it was on the streaming service. Likewise with Amazon or any other streaming services, unless the show or movie made its first-run premiere on such. Thoughts?
I am also noting where the edit was made is in the Broadcast section, where it lists when it premiered on international outlets (Disney Channel in Australia, UK, etc.) I am on the fence about the encyclopedic nature of that vs. plain trivia, even with sourcing, and not sure where the line should be drawn on these mentions. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 17:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Why no Netflix broadcast? -- Allygggggg ( talk) 21:05, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
After going thru the raw viewership data for the episodes in season 2, and compiling it for the average in the Ratings section (2.28 million for the whole season), I am aware that some of the episodes did not premiere on Friday—the first four episodes of the season, which were part of a week-long set of episodes to kick off season 2 back in May 2015, plus parts 2 and 3 of "Girl Meets Texas" in October. Different nights of the week undoubtedly have different audience measures for many reasons, as does certain Friday evenings over others. One episode I recall that did air on a Friday, "Girl Meets Rah Rah" (3.31 million viewers, highest of the season), which aired after the premiere of the movie Invisible Sister, was about an hour or so later than its normal time slot. As the ratings table shows the normal day and time slot for the show, I don't know if the average may be skewed a bit due to the above episodes airing outside that normal day and time. I won't worry about it too much, just something to pass along after noting what is in the ratings table. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:21, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
I feel like the character list is long enough to warrant its own article. I will perform a split by the end of next week if there are no objections. Amaury ( talk) 04:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Just thought I'd let everyone know that Girl Meets World did win an award this year. They won for Children's Pilot and Series (Live Action) at the 2016 Artios Awards. I think it's worth a mention on the main Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riarklematthews ( talk • contribs) 07:10, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
After watching "Girl Meets High School: Part One", it's clear to me that the show switched from the multi-camera format it used in seasons 1–2 to a "single-camera" format (a la Stuck in the Middle) for shooting season 3. Has this been mentioned in any WP:RS anywhere?
If so, I suggest it be added to to the article – it's pretty unusual for a show to switch filming formats in the middle of its run like this. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 15:36, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Girl Meets World was nominated for the Mexico Kids Choice Awards 2016. Category is Favorite International Program. Link is here http://kidschoiceawardsmexico.mundonick.com/votar#cat=programa_internacional_mx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riarklematthews ( talk • contribs) 20:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
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Girl Meets World was nominated for the second time in a row for Outstanding Children's Program for the 2016 Emmy Awards, according to the Emmy Awards site. Itstmims ( talk) 17:23, 14 July 2016 (UTC)itstmims
In light of the discussion at K.C. Undercover, the decision was to move any award or nomination for an actor/actress to his/her individual Wikipedia article instead of keeping it in the article for the show for which he/she received the award or nomination. (In that case, Zendaya was the only one with awards/nominations listed in that section at K.C. Undercover.)
In this article, however, we have another related issue with the awards and nominations listing, where individuals are the recipients of the accolades rather than the show itself—writers in this case. I'm neutral as to whether they, or directors, producers, costume designers, etc., should stay on the list or be moved to their individual articles. Looking up the two listed writers (Matthew Nelson and Mark Blutman) on Wikipedia, though, indicates neither has an article, so I'm thinking the status quo for how this section is presented right now, but what about in general, should any have Wikipedia articles? Again, I have no opinion regarding these individuals staying on the list or being moved to their articles, but it is a good question considering actors/actresses are being moved. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 15:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
On the part about awards for the show in general not belonging on the actor page, I'm in full agreement there, and recently removed Girl Meets World awards and nominations that were for the show from Rowan Blanchard's page [3]. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 17:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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Season 3 already premiered. 24.135.242.57 ( talk) 02:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
An edit at Boy Meets World [4] had me scratching my head about whether calling Girl Meets World a "spin-off" or a "sequel" to that show is more accurate. In looking up the definitions of the terms, either seems to fit, and looking thru several inline citations in this article indicates sources use either. I reverted the edit at BMW anyway [5], as it seems unnecessary to flip-flop between the two if one use is established. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 05:23, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
I have previewed the latest episode of Girl Meets World on Watch Disney ("Girl Meets Her Monster") (spoiler alert!) and Sarah Carpenter, Sabrina's sister, has guest star billing for the first time in this episode. She has portrayed classmate Sarah for pretty much the show's entire run, in numerous episodes but always a co-star, although for very early episodes, she may have been credited as "Student #X". There's going to be the temptation to list her, either in this article or the LoC article, as recurring following this episode, and at the moment, I'm not sure which way I'd lean with this inclusion. This is far different from Timmy in Bunk'd (Nate Stone), where he appeared in only four episodes, getting no credit in two of them, a co-star credit in the third, and a guest star credit in the fourth ("Camp Kiki-Slasher"). Sarah Carpenter has been in way more than four episodes, though I don't know exactly how many ... I'm estimating the tally to be somewhere between the high teens and two dozen. Episodes where she has at least one spoken line may be a bit closer to a dozen or slightly less. Thoughts? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 15:20, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Girl Meets World has been nominated for a 2017 Writers Guild of America (WGA) Award, for the episode "Girl Meets Commonism", written by Joshua Jacobs & Michael Jacobs. http://awards.wga.org/wga-awards/nominees-winners 24.35.162.197 ( talk) 04:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
SInce they have moved on academically, time to add the category of High school television series.-- 2601:5C0:4200:6EFE:1B4:A530:8582:FE69 ( talk) 03:33, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
If you highlighted the show as Middle school television series, you already have set the precedent of the program defined by Its academic setting so since THEY HAVE moved on, the upgrade IS warranted.-- 2601:5C0:4200:6EFE:5CD7:1350:2035:755 ( talk) 16:29, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Glee is highlighted as a college television series when very little of it focused on college. Not nearly as much as it did on high school.-- 2601:5C0:4200:6EFE:5CD7:1350:2035:755 ( talk) 16:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
The lion's share of the episodes are spent in the school setting, so naturally since they have moved onto high school, it should not be a matter of debate to add High school television series to this show's categories.-- 68.192.236.182 ( talk) 20:46, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Disney Channel PR has both tweeted and posted an Instagram photo stating that GMW is cancelled. https://twitter.com/DisneyChannelPR/status/816871029901406208 That's about as direct as you can get so we should probably use those as the source. 24.35.162.197 ( talk) 05:03, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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I think there should be a section in the article for saving Girl Meets world on the petitions, and fans trying to save the show. Here are some links to get started https://www.yahoo.com/tv/girl-meets-world-boss-talks-212322157.html http://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/news/a44333/girl-meets-world-fans-think-netflix-is-the-last-hope-to-save-the-show/ There are hundred of campaigns going around twitter and other social media sites as well video calls from Netflix and more on youtube. I think there should be some type of section about this. 2602:306:3130:C980:A450:A294:21FD:D16A ( talk) 22:13, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I feel like this should be at least mentioned somewhere in the article. Via TV Line, Michael Jacobs has confirmed that there are talks underway at the very early stages of possibly continuing the show elsewhere. http://tvline.com/2017/01/12/girl-meets-world-season-4-revival-chances-michael-jacobs-interview/ 24.35.162.197 ( talk) 21:54, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Two particular categories from the 2016 Teen Choice Awards re-added to the article (now twice in the last week or so) by Riarklematthews are getting my attention [6] [7]: specifically Choice Summer TV Actor and Choice Summer TV Actress. A couple of points here:
IMO, the latter's reasoning is clear enough to have these two categories added. With the former, though, we're disregarding what is in the source and making our own evaluation about what a category is, thus making it original research. I'm also reminded that just because a source says something doesn't necessarily warrant inclusion.
So given what Riarklematthews has added (at least twice), do we let it stand? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I understand where you are coming from with the awards going to the "actor" pages, but I added them because they were nominated FOR Girl Meets World at both Teen Choice and Kids Choice Awards. It specifically mentions the show in each of these categories. The same thing can be said for Ava Kolker's Young Artist Award nomination. They are recognizing her for her role on Girl Meets World. A lot of TV Show Wikipedia pages include these nominations. Look at Pretty Little Liars, Grey's Anatomy, etc. I think Peyton should be recognized for his TCA nomination, and Rowan for her TCA and KCA nom. Riarklematthews ( talk) 01:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
I am making this note ahead of anyone placing this in the article regarding Netflix's possibly not reviving the show (TheWrap article here). I'm in doubt about this as official word of Netflix being out of the running (and a number of other sources I'm seeing on the Internet, including Yahoo and Seventeen magazine, are using this article as their primary reference), so it doesn't necessarily mean they are. As talks are ongoing at this point to try to get the show on another network or streaming service, there is going to be lots of speculation and rumors concerning who's out or who's got the upper hand in securing the rights to broadcast potential future seasons of the show. There is even the possibility that things could completely fall through. Just like with the news of the cancellation by Disney Channel, which had a lot of speculation and rumor ahead of that, we cannot jump to any quick conclusions, and any news about this must be linked to reliable sources, which includes their reputation for fact-checking.
Why I'm in doubt about TheWrap article: they make only two statements in the entire article having to do with Netflix's being out, neither of which sounds authoritative. (1) "TheWrap has learned that Netflix will not be picking up the recently canceled Disney Channel sitcom for more episodes." (2) "There's no word yet if Hulu or another platform may pick up the show though Netflix will not be its savior." A lack of additional content addressing the issue, like actual word from a Netflix executive regarding such a decision, casts doubt on the reliability. Thoughts? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 19:39, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
It should be noted that GMW was just nominated for it's 3rd and final Creative Arts Emmy Award for Outstanding Children's Program. 24.35.162.197 ( talk) 13:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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In the main article, there should be an added paragraph in the beginning that discusses the series end. I know that there is a section that discusses it's cancellation, but there should be more info on that at the top of the article that summarizes reasons for the series' end. It should read:
"After both the cast and Disney stayed quiet for a while on the series' future, rumors started spreading about the show possibly moving to Freeform [1]. The series' writers put these rumors to rest after announcing on a group twitter account that show would be ending altogether. The series finale aired January 20, 2017 after a total of 72 episodes. JosephTrem ( talk) 20:18, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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Add the following to the page's section on production about the episode Girl Meets I Am Farkle.
In 2015, Girl Meets World, aired an episode titled Girl Meets I Am Farkle, in which Farkle, one of the show’s protagonists, who is known for his quirky personality, may have Asperger’s syndrome. Throughout the episode, another protagonist, Maya is resistant of the idea of Farkle having Asperger’s, as she doesn’t want him to feel like he’s different or that something is wrong with him. By the end of the episode, it is discovered that he had been misdiagnosed, but a recurring character, Isadora Smackle, who has romantic feelings for Farkle and, later in the series, becomes his girlfriend, does indeed have Asperger’s. The other characters are very understanding and accepting of this. She mentions that she is very touch sensitive but is working on it, and when Farkle wants to give her a hug, she says it makes her somewhat uncomfortable, but she wants to try it anyway.
Girl Meets World was frequently known for tackling more serious issues than other Disney Channel shows of its time were willing to, very much so because it was a spinoff of the ABC 90’s sitcom, Boy Meets World. Boy Meets World dealt with alcoholism, absentee parents, and even death. In an era when most Disney Channel sitcoms were simple, silly comedies, Girl Meets World dealt with religion, poverty, and death as well. To deal with mental disability was another big step for both the show and the channel. In a Huffington Post article written about this episode specifically by the mother of a 6-year-old, she mentions that “even on the channels we’ve always trusted, some of the shows are full of sass and even border on bullying sometimes. One show (Girl Meets World) consistently gets it right, though, so we watch religiously as a family.” She felt the episode represented Asperger’s “in an authentic way and succeeded in sending the best message possible” and that “it’s really nice to see a family TV show get it right.”
The existence of Smackle’s diagnosis was hinted at later throughout the series, with her touch-sensitivity, hyperfixations, and occasional loud outbursts being noticeable, but never again referred to by name. Arguably, the most notable moment involving her character’s personality following Girl Meets I Am Farkle was in Girl Meets A Christmas Maya. In this episode, the friend group performs a secret Santa gift exchange to the dismay of everyone except the main protagonist, Riley, as no one knows what to get one another. At first, all of the gifts given appear to be offensive to the recipient in some way, but it is discovered that each has a heartfelt meaning behind it. Another recurring character, Zay, gives Smackle a book on etiquette, which concerns her at first, but when she looks inside, she notices that Zay crosses certain things out and makes his own little notes to show Smackle that she shouldn’t feel the need to follow anyone else’s expectations of her and that she should just be herself. Likely, much of the reason Smackle’s diagnosis was not dealt with in more detail was due to her being a recurring and not main character. Additionally, many, including the cast and crew, expected the show to be renewed for a fourth season but it was shockingly cancelled after three. The producers hoped to delve into even more mature and serious topics in a potential fourth season but were never given the chance to do so. Had it been renewed, perhaps we would have seen Smackle’s diagnosis acknowledged even more. Shake108 ( talk) 02:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)