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Tlvernon (
talk·contribs) has been paid by self-employed. Their editing has included contributions to this article. Tlverson states they were paid by GetYourGuide to revise and edit the page in
this post
Reference number 3 seems ok at first, but I'm not sure it substantiates the claim of visitors to the website because it clearly states that the company "claims" they have that many visitors. I could go either way on this one, Forbes is obviously a trusted source. But it also says they're up and comers, not they've come. To me that translates "soon to be notable, not yet notable."
C1776MTalk17:32, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Reference number 4 (tnooz) is just a transcription of an interview so that is a primary source document and should probably be scrapped.
C1776MTalk17:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Not a problem - Reference number 5 is the strongest so far in my opinion. When I was reviewing it originally I didn't even get that far though because the rest of the article up to that point was primary sources.
C1776MTalk17:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Not a problem - Reference 6 (wsj) is a great source. I agree that it doesn't count as a 'blog' like mentioned on your talk page. The information in that source alone should give you an entire section on the merging/acquiring/whatever of Gidsy, and google tells me there are plenty of other news articles to back that one up.
C1776MTalk17:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Reference 7 (wsj) has tons of information in it, but you only used that they've partnered with two well known companies... That looks like bias. The article also talks about their competitors (yours should too), it talks about where their monetary support came from to start with (yours should too), etc.
C1776MTalk18:02, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
The last thing I'll point out for now. And this is what causes me, personally, to stop and take a harder look at a page when I'm patrolling new pages. Formatting. If the article is meant to explain and describe a notable company in an encyclopedic manner it will not be a single blurb of "this is what we they offer. It will include multiple sections covering, how/when it was founded, who they compete with, who they work with, mergers or other significant changes to their structure or business plan, problems that faced the company, etc. Also, any time there is an external link to the company's website above any references I immediately look for signs of
WP:NOTAD.
C1776MTalk18:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Well, since you've been around for a long time I assume you know how
WP:NPP works. The page as it stands looks like a promotional site. So, yeah, it justified me nominating it for deletion. I assume the admin that deleted it agreed or they wouldn't have deleted it. The article history doesn't show anymore but I work from the back of the NPP queue, so it would have been fairly old by the time I nominated it.
C1776MTalk08:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)reply
It hasn't been changed yet, so it runs the risk of someone else doing the exact same thing and having to go through this process all over again. Why not fix it up here first then move it back to namespace? I agree that it seems to meet the notability requirements but I still think it needs work on NPOV and layout. I think this is a reasonable argument since both I and the admin that deleted it thought it was clearly an advertisement (enough for a CSD). I can work on it a little bit in a few hours if you like.
C1776MTalk13:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)reply
What I've been asking myself is, why do you think the article is "clearly an advertisement"? I simply don't understand why it got deleted - you know how that curbs your motivation... So: Can't be the references. And it can't be the lack of information about investors, mergers etc. which I find superfluous for an article of this length. So you said it's formatting - but the only sentence where you talk about formatting is when you say the external links section should be below the references. But that doesn't justify deleting the article, does it? (The reason I put the sections in this order because that's how we do it in German Wikipedia. I just found
WP:ORDER now...). I would be really happy if we could move the article back to the main namespace and continue working on it there, because in my opinion, it's a perfectly acceptable stub about a website/internet company right now. I can't find anything that's violating the NPOV. Sigh. --
Gnom (
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13:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Hey Gnom, sorry I haven't worked on it yet. I'm currently deployed and in the middle of a major change to my schedule so I'm a little out of it. I think it's perfectly acceptable to move it back. The reason I suggest(ed) you not yet is because it was already nominated for CSD then deleted. That means two different people looked at it and said "that looks like pure advertisement. I will try to work on it after I go to dinner (leaving now), whether it's here in your sandbox or in article space. I'll move the external links section now since that's a huge red flag to some people.
C1776MTalk13:15, 15 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Hi
Tlvernon. I've returned this post back to its original location and replaced it with
Template:Connected contributor (paid). If you can clarify who your employer is, then I can add that to the template. So, if you're working for a PR agency, etc. and GYG is one of your clients, then please clarify. Same goes if you're self-employed. You will also need to follow
WP:PAID with respect to any edits you make to this article, and declare your connection on your user page. You can do that just adding a simple statement or by using
Template:Paid. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
00:48, 5 December 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Tlvernon:. I moved this post back to it's original location as well. New posts should be added to the bottom of talk pages per
WP:TPG. You should also try and always add a section heading whenever you start a new thread so as to prevent it from being mixed up with an existing thread. As I posted at
WP:THQ#Vandalism?, I suggest that you undo the expansion you made to the article (before someone comes along and does it for you) and follow
WP:PSCOI instead. Other than a
WP:MINOR change likely to be deemed uncontroversial (i.e., a simple spelling correction, etc.), any other changes should be proposed on this talk page first by making an
edit request. You might also want to explain to GYG that they have
no final editorial control over article content and that you can only edit in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines; so, if GYG wants to propose changes to the article through you they can, but the proposal will only be accepted if it complies with relevant policies and guidelines. If GYG views this Wikipedia article as sort of a "official homepage" or as a
way to further promote their business, then you should explain to them that is
not Wikipedia's role at all. If you have more questions about paid editing or COI editing, you can ask them at
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
00:58, 5 December 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi. My name is Clare and I work for GetYourGuide. In compliance with WP:COI, I'd like to share some suggested changes
here for an impartial editor to consider. These address three issues:
Likely COI Issues: Adding citation needed tags, trimming lists of offices/partners, trimming routine executive appointments, trimming editorialized content, etc. that was probably added by someone at GetYourGuide at some point in the past (sorry)
Correction: Trimming references to GetYourGuide being a travel agency. GetYourGuide is not a travel agency and none of the cited source allege it is. Though, you can find travel providers on the site.
Products/service: The History section is peppered with products/service info that should probably go into a Services, Website, or Products type section.
The draft of your proposed changes contain instances where multiple references are bundled together to source the exact same information. In instances where multiple sources reference the same information, only one reference should be used.[a]
To that end, please draw up a new edit request which eliminates instances where bundled citations exist, and feel free to submit that new edit request at your earliest convenience. Regards,
Spintendo23:13, 30 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Notes
^Several of these instances may have already existed within the article before the current edit request was composed. However, as the COI editor has chosen to incorporate those same possibly-preexisting instances
within their own draft version of the article, that draft version as a whole cannot be implemented.
Thanks Spintendo. I've revised the proposed changes so that it also proposes some trims to excessive citations. However, I only intended to propose incremental improvements to address some of the most glaring problems on the page for now. Let me know, please, if this works?
Claresayasronning (
talk)
17:07, 5 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Requested changes
I work for GetYourGuide and I proposed some changes to correct that GetYourGuide is an online marketplace, not a travel agency, and to trim lists of "business alliances... employees...offices..." etc. per the
WP:NOTPRICE policy that prohibits directory information. A few other things as well. These changes are intended as an incremental improvement that still leaves a lot of room for future improvement/expansion, but puts the page on a path towards rehabilitation.
@
Graywalls:said he supports the edits (also noting the page needs more work). He asked that I make a copy/paste-ready version of the article with the edits incorporated, which I've done here. This draft still has a lot of problems with uncited content, a Forbes Contributor, etc. but my hope is merely to make progress before working on additional improvements/expansion.
Claresayasronning (
talk)
19:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)reply
The current page is in much better shape now. However, a lot of the cited sources don't say what they are cited for, don't mention GetYourGuide at all
[1], aren't fully utilized, are to improper sources
[2], or are brief blurbs
[3]. There's also some uncited content, name-dropping of investors, out-dated crystal ball content about "plans" to move the company's HQ, and so on.
I'd like to share a proposed draft as a replacement. It is similar to the current page in terms of the overall emphasis and flow of events, but adds more detail, relies on better citations, and improves the quality/accuracy throughout every paragraph. Pinging @
Gnom: and @
Graywalls:, who responded when I proposed edits last December. Let me know if you would prefer I provide an annotated version showing the changes or do one section at-a-time.
Sometimes they just end up getting done that way as different editors nibble at things as they feel like or their time allows since no one is expected or obligated to make a large time consuming edit at once.
Graywalls (
talk)
18:40, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
No problem. I'll break it down into smaller requested changes. Does the below format work @
Gnom:?
−
The idea for GetYourGuide was conceived in2007 by co-founders Johannes Reck and Tao Tao.
+
The idea for GetYourGuide was conceived of in 2008 by co-founders Johannes Reck and Tao Tao, who were college roommates attending the [[Swiss Federal Institute of Technology]].
Explanation: The
current citation does say GetYourGuide was founded in 2007, but most sources say 2008.
[4][5][6]. This also adds more cited information.
An impartial editor has reviewed the proposed edit(s) and asked the editor with a conflict of interest to go ahead and make the suggested changes.
Hi. My name is Clare and I work for GetYourGuide. In compliance with WP:COI, I'd like to request the following changes/updates:
1. Infobox
−
founder: Johannes Reck, Tao Tao, Tobias Rein, Martin Sieber, Pascal Mathis,JochenMattes
+
founder: Johannes Reck, Tao Tao, Tobias Rein, Martin Sieber, Pascal Mathis
Explanation: Jochen Mattes is not a cofounder. You can see all of the co-founders listed individually in
this German news article. There are some blogs and other websites that list Jochen, but I haven't seen anything Wikipedia would consider a reliable source and suspect some of these websites got this mis-information from Wikipedia itself.
2. Lead
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It offers more than 60,000 products worldwide in150countries,22languages,and40currencies.
+
It offers more than 100,000 products worldwide from more than 20,000 supply partners
Explanation: Updating the numbers with a more recent Fast Company citation. However, the number of countries, languages, and currencies supported I don't have an updated citation for and they fluctuate regularly.
My name is Clare and I work for GetYourGuide. The current History section has a paragraph near the beginning that (a) is uncited (b) is partially redundant with the prior sentence (c) is the only information on the page regarding 5+ years of history as the company was starting out (d) has a lot of strange/awkward language/wording. I'd like to propose replacing that paragraph with a cited and expanded 2.5 paragraph draft that adds information about funding rounds as follows:
1. History section expansion/citations
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The company was initiallyfundedbythefounder'sparentsandrelatives. ThebusinessmodelforGetYourGuidestipulatesthatitdoesnotofferitsowntoursoractivities,butrather,actsasamediatorbetweencustomersandproviders. Asaspin-offofETH,GetYourGuidewasinitiallyheadquarteredinZurich. Thenew company relocateditsheadquartersin2012toBerlin. AnofficeinZurichwasmaintainedprimarilyforengineeringteams.[citationneeded]
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The company was founded in 2009 in [[Zurich, Switzerland]] by four students.<ref name="Bath 2018 t125">{{cite web | last=Bath | first=Dominik | title=Get your Guide plant neuen Campus in Berlin | website=Berliner Morgenpost | date=September 3, 2018 | url=https://www.morgenpost.de/bezirke/pankow/article215240895/Get-your-Guide-plant-neuen-Campus-in-Berlin.html | language=de | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref> Initially, the company was funded by friends and family members.<ref name="Forum 2018 r126">{{cite web | title=Zeig mir deine Welt | website=Forum | date=October 19, 2018 | url=https://www.magazin-forum.de/de/node/11508 | language=de | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref> The founders moved from Zurich to Berlin in 2013, in order to raise venture capital, but ended up getting a lot of their funding from American investors.<ref name="Forum 2018 r126"/> GetYourGuide raised $170 million in funding over four funding rounds from 2009 to 2017.<ref name="Kolodny 2013 m412">{{cite web | last=Kolodny | first=Lora | title=GetYourGuide Finds You Leisure Activities at Your Travel Destination | website=WSJ | date=January 7, 2013 | url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-VCDB-12671 | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref><ref name="Lomas 2014 p963">{{cite web | last=Lomas | first=Natasha | title=Holiday Events Booking Platform, GetYourGuide, Pulls In Another $25M To "Landgrab" New Markets | website=TechCrunch | date=July 31, 2014 | url=https://techcrunch.com/2014/07/31/getyourguide-series-b/ | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref><ref name="Butcher 2013 x260">{{cite web | last=Butcher | first=Mike | title=Deadpooling Gidsy Acquired By GetYourGuide In A Berlin Insiders Deal | website=TechCrunch | date=April 24, 2013 | url=https://techcrunch.com/2013/04/24/dead-pooling-gidsy-acquired-by-getyourguide-in-a-berlin-insiders-deal/ | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref> Another $484 million was raised in a 2019 Series E round, valuing the company at $1 billion.<ref name="Lunden 2019 i031">{{cite web | last=Lunden | first=Ingrid | title=GetYourGuide picks up $484M, passes 25M tickets sold through its tourism activity app | website=TechCrunch | date=May 16, 2019 | url=https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/16/getyourguide-picks-up-484m-passes-25m-tickets-sold-through-its-tourism-activity-app/ | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref> This was one of the largest-ever funding rounds for a European startup.<ref name="Lunden 2019 i031"/> Then, in June 2023, GetYourGuide raised $194 million in venture capital, valuing the business at about $2 billion.<ref name="Browne 2023 b428">{{cite web | last=Browne | first=Ryan | title=TripAdvisor rival GetYourGuide nears $2 billion valuation as it raises fresh funds to invest in A.I. | website=CNBC | date=June 1, 2023 | url=https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/01/travel-firm-getyourguide-raises-194-million-at-2-billion-valuation.html | access-date=December 6, 2023}}</ref>
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The company was founded in 2009 in
Zurich, Switzerland by four students.[1] Initially, the company was funded by friends and family members.[2] The founders moved from Zurich to Berlin in 2013, in order to raise venture capital, but ended up getting a lot of their funding from American investors.[2] GetYourGuide raised $170 million in funding over four funding rounds from 2009 to 2017.[3][4][5] Another $484 million was raised in a 2019 Series E round, valuing the company at $1 billion.[6] This was one of the largest-ever funding rounds for a European startup.[6] Then, in June 2023, GetYourGuide raised $194 million in venture capital, valuing the business at about $2 billion.[7]
Thanks @
Gnom:. I adjusted the above request based on your feedback. I summarized the smaller funding rounds as "raised $170 million in funding over four funding rounds from 2009 to 2017" if that works?
For the uncited sentence "The business model for GetYourGuide stipulates that it does not offer its own tours or activities..." the Services section later contradicts this with a cited sentence: "In August 2018, GetYourGuide began selling tours under its own brand name." The sentence in the Services section is also a bit off though, because it doesn't mention GetYourGuide stopped offering GetYourGuide-branded events years ago. I suggest the following (in the Services section): "Generally, the activities are operated by third-parties that pay GetYourGuide a commission for each booking.[1]"