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What is better translation of Štít Legionárov: "Legionnaires’ Peak" or "Peak of Legionaries" ?
Unless you find a contemporaneus English language source, the second one... Juro 03:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
I suggest to change the names Franz Joseph and Stalin to links. Is that in line with Wikipedia Manual of Style? JanSuchy 14:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
But some parts read like an essay so needed to be changed.-- Svetovid 19:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
The spelling legionnaires is more common (3:1 by comparison to legionaries), and the model without of is more common in place names (e.g., Pilgrims Valley, Iroquois Valley, and Legionnaires Valley in Texas). -- Carca220nne ( talk) 18:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Proposal: Would anyone object if I rearranged the section on access? I'd start with access rather than with the POV of the Mountain Service/Park management and would then repeatedly attribute "are allowed," etc., to the entity that mandates that. I'd remove the claim that it has reduced the number of accidents on the route.
Justification: Some of the things, like the request that people leave no trace (an impossibility) may sound universally appealing, for instance, but that is a regulation, too. All of them need to be phrased consistently as a description of a defined entity's mandates in effect in the area under discussion rather than as an endorsement of the policy, i.e, a POV. ♠♠♠♠ As to the number of accidents, such regulations have been in effect since the establishment of the Park, so what published before-and-after statistics show a drop; and they would be meaningless if they did—if more people used to be allowed to go somewhere and then their number is reduced, of course there will be fewer accidents, like if only those with a 20/20 vision and low testosterone were allowed to drive. Carca220nne ( talk) 05:54, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone who has the skills could spare the time some day to improve the table in the "Climate" section, at least make the numbers align right, or give it a spiffier layout in general. Carca220nne ( talk) 08:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I've watched this article developing, and now I think it should meet WP:WIAGA criteria for good article or fall short of them. However, there are two things that dog me: 1. Is there anything to be added on Geology? Browsing GA articles on mountains like this one, each seems to contain such section or be as content somewhere. and 2. The current lead looks bit short to me, though I don't know what to add more. MarkBA t/ c/ @ 14:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
So I gave the lead a rewrite since you said so. Easily reversible, of course. I don't know about the policy on digits. I'd opt for the metric "decimal comma" (2654,4 m) with meters and the
+
way with the imperial measures (8,708.7 ft.), but there's probably a policy to follow?
Carca220nne (
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01:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, the lead does look better now, though, for a change, now I think it's bit too long, but if others are fine the current version, I'm not proposing anything. To the discussion just below me, this was also weird to me, just take the elevations: Poprad = 672 m, Kežmarok = 630 m, Zakopane = 840 m or south of the summit, Lučivná = 767 m. So around 2,000 m is more accurate. MarkBA t/ c/ @ 09:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
How was Gerlach's prominence of 2355 m (7,726 ft) calculated? Wiki gives the elevation of Poprad, the nearest lowest place, as 672 m AMSL, which translates to "about 2000 m" as the lead said, but the box lists the 15% higher value. Carca220nne ( talk) 02:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I highly suggest you familiarize with the idea of topographic_prominence first :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topographic_prominence - the lowest place I believe between Alps and Tatras would be Moravian Gate which lowest point of must be around 300 m amsl. Besides, comparing Poprad to Zakopane isn't adequate, becasue Poprad lies much further from Tatras than Zakopane which partially lies IN Tatras themselves. It would be more appropriate to compare Poprad to Nowy Targ, which is about 580 m amsl-- 83.12.91.242 ( talk) 21:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
What's the policy on Central European personal first-baptismal names? Greiner, Count Sachsen-Coburg's highly qualified land management director (rather than one of the foresters), was born in "Germany" (Karpatendeutsches biographisches Lexikon), or more specifically "Lichtentanne" (Révai Lexikon), western Saxony, so he was doubtless baptized Ludwig. The way things go in Central Europe, Hungarian sources call him Lajos, Slovak sources Ľudovít, German sources Ludwig. He first came to the Kingdom of Hungary (its Slovak-majority area) at the age of 32 and lived there for the rest of his life (died at 86). There's no info on whether he may have learned any Slovak or Hungarian, or how much. There's a good chance that he continued to call himself Ludwig and that the Kingdom's authorities sometimes spelled his name as Lajos, especially towards the end of the century. Is there a reason to opt for the Slovak rather than the German version of his first name in this entry, or should all versions be listed (if so, which ones should be parenthesized), or...? Carca220nne ( talk) 15:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the Tatra National Park being entered under "Range". The Park is an administrative unit, not a mountain chain. It was under "Municipality" first, which was not perfect given that, unlike a municipality, the Park is not run by an elected body, but it was the closest label to identifying the body that administers the territory of Gerlach. I'd rather not see the Park at all in the box than see it misrepresented as the name of a natural feature. At the same time, I think it's good to know what body administers a territory in general, especially since a passage in this entry turns into the Park's warning sign, so it would be useful to see the Park fitted in somewhere in the box. Carca220nne 16:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
If you are putting this for GA, the units need to be fixed. Not all have imperial conversions, and those that do, apart from a couple I fixed are not correctly formatted - spell out metric, abbreviate imperial. Jimfbleak ( talk) 17:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I have reviewed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria and have placed the article on hold until the following issues are addressed. As you address each issue, either strike through the statement/place a check mark next to the issue and state how you addressed it.
Altogether, the article is well-written and didn't have too many problems. I have left the article on hold for seven days for the issues to be addressed. If they are fixed in this time, I will pass the article. If not, the article will be failed and can be renominated at WP:GAN. If you have any questions or when you are done, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Good job on addressing the above issues. I have passed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria. Concerning the the past and present sections, I just figured they would go in timeline order, but if editors of the article like it the way it is that's fine. Although it's likely there's no mention of the flora/fauna, still keep an eye open for any articles on the topic. Continue to improve the article, making sure that all new information is properly sourced and neutral.
Also, to anyone that is reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the large backlog. Instructions can be found here. Each new reviewer that helps to review articles will help to reduce the time that articles wait to be reviewed. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you continue to bring articles up to Good Article status. If anyone disagrees with this review, an alternate opinion can be sought at Good article reassessment. If you have any further questions about this review, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 22:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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IMO, the English name of this peak should be Gerlachov peak and NOT "Gerlach peak". Why? Because it takes its name from the village of Gerlachov! The colloquial Slovak name "Gerlach" is just a popular name and is not official at all! I propose changing the name. Johnnyjanko ( talk) 13:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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I don't quite understand the statement "With the travel restrictions imposed by the Eastern Bloc, the mountain was particularly treasured by Czechs, East Germans, Hungarians, Poles, and Slovaks as the highest point available for them to climb" as it implies something incorrect. There have been higher mountains in the Eastern Bloc even outside the USSR. The highest mountain of the Eastern Bloc outside the Soviet Union itself was the Musala in Bulgaria at 2925 m (9,600 ft). Mountains of Yugoslavia and Albania have been higher than Gerlach as well. The highest mountain of the European part of the Soviet Union was the Elbrus, the highest mountain of Europe. Professional climbers could fly to Almaty and climb Khan Tengri or Victory Peak. The highest mountain of the Soviet Union was Communism Peak. But certainly most Czechs, East Germans, Hungarians, Poles and Slovaks could afford to go to the Rila Mountains and climb Musala, so Musala was more likely the "highest point available for them to climb". Hence, such a statement would be more fitting to Musala (but with making it more specific) but Gerlach by far wasn't the highest mountain of the Eastern Bloc (just of the more northern part of the Bloc). Glasfaser Wien ( talk) 16:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)