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It would be nice to get some more info on the engine. Interesting that it uses a Rotax engine, Rotax is a Austrian company now owned by a Canadian corporation. Rotax is best known for making motorcycle engines, small and lightweight vs. their power output. They have been used by a large number of motorcycle manufacturers over the years including Aprillia, BMW, KTM, Penton, ATK and Can-AM. Also some snow-mobiles use them. They build both 2 and 4 strokes, mostly singles and twins of up to 1000cc capacity.
ZeroXero ( talk) 22:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
The Museum of Yugoslav Aviation has a Predator hanging on display, and I assume this was downed during the 90s conflict. It'd be nice to have some info on the aprox date, location and circumstances of the downing in the article, but I can't find anything. Anyone? Akradecki 15:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I remember hearing a news story on the radio, during the Kosovo conflict, about an aircraft being shot down, the news report finished off with "there were no crew on board" I will try to find this story and post it, but if anyone has any info it should be added to "operational history" as well. It may well be the same incident refered to above. Thatmarkguy ( talk) 18:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I was flying the Predator that now hangs in the Serb air museum when it went down. Most of the info published on this subject is incorrect. The Wiki section on Predator losses in the Balkans is pretty much totally garbled. This is surprising, because the accurate story isn't that hard to come by. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cw5301 ( talk • contribs) 03:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
In the Specifications section it shows crew as 0 (zero). While it is obvious that aircraft of this type have no on-board crew, however there has to be someone piloting and operating its systems from a ground base as it is a "remotely piloted vehicle" (RPV) and not an "autonomous aerial vehicle". How many people would normally be operating one of these aircraft during flight? Roger 12:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Autonomous means the AV is capable of flying a mission plan with little or even no human interaction - at least after takeoff occurs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the predator is not capable of this. Whatsamatteru ( talk) 15:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
This site: [ Soldier of Fortune] talks about the success of this drone. Agre22 ( talk) 14:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)agre22
Could we get another photo of this thing? It is really hard to judge the size of it in all of the photos currently on the article. I'm thinking something like this http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/predator/mq1afghanistan_20080424.jpg Does anyone have one we can use? Peter Napkin Dance Party ( talk) 05:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if the person who wrote this section watched the video that was cited. This section is unclear on who antagonized who and who fired first. The video, obtained by CBS News, from the camera in the Predator shows that the Predator flew toward the Mig. The Predator was fired upon and fired back in response. The text on this page is sort of garbled about what happened. I just want to make sure that if the story is going to be told, it is told correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpittb87 ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
There should be a discussion on this page whether the use of this weapon contravenes international law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkooiman ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I must agree , this is not a discussion for that, this is about information pertaining to the Drone and technology and therefore must be neutral. Leave that discussion for another page.Tra3535 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.72.125 ( talk) 18:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Just reverted (again) the addition of a controversy section about a report from Philip Aston. The referenced report does not mention the Predator. If it is notable it is better in a more general subject article not a specific unmentioned weapon platform. Although the reference provides no evidence that the statement in controvertial just a point of observation. MilborneOne ( talk) 21:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
This American site: [ Fox] tells that Iran hacks this UAV. Agre22 ( talk) 15:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)agre22
Non-story and largely non-significant. If you look over at the Air Force Times (a Gannet publication, not military-run BTW) it has some details on Predator uplinks and downlinks which consist of three feeds - an encrypted control feed, an encrypted video feed going to commanders and pilots through a sattelite link and an unencrypted video feed going directly to troops on the ground via the ROVER system. The unencrypted feed can be narrowed to a footprint with a 100-meter radius around the receiver on the ground making it effectively impossible to intercept, and newer models of ROVER being fielded now support encryption. ROVER caught some flak over at Wired for operating in the clear, but seeing as how the signal is very drectional you would need to be very close to the receiver to intercept it. Smaller, lighter Army drones are still currently broadcasting video in the clear (that will start changing within weeks) but that's not a very big deal with a tactical drone that you can see and hear buzzing around at low altitude.
These reports of insurgents intercepting drone video feeds deal with a fairly short period in early and mid-2009 before the military moved - very swiftly, as this was a known weakness in the system - to secure the feeds involved. I get the impression this involved adding that directional capability to the ROVER system. It's easy to excorciate the military for leaving video unencrypted, but when you realize that the enemy DID NOT have the technical ability to view the feeds without a lot of help from Iran (and some nontrivial new commercial software development) it's also apparent that the point about local enemies not being sophisticated enough to exploit that security hole DOES IN FACT stand. When you account for the fact that encryption and good streaming video quality to all the people who needed to use it were mutually exclusive until very recently... you begin to see this controversy as a manufactured hatchet job on the military and less of a legitimate story. Peace. 69.207.66.238 ( talk) 18:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
"The USAF describes the Predator as a 'Tier II' MALE UAS (medium-altitude, long-endurance UAV system)."
Assuming the USAF doesn't consist of Unix geeks, the acronym "UAS" doesn't make sense. Has someone verified that? Does it stand for Unmanned Aerial System? (In which case the phrase "long-endurance UAV system" should be corrected.) I don't want to change anything without verifying first, but something's out of whack. Xebico ( talk) 15:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I hold that the cost of the General Atomics MQ-1 system Predator is 40 million $ for the following reasons:
A) It puts it in link, so much in yours as in mine.
B) In the above mentioned link it does not appear for any divides a reference to a cost for every UAV that integrates the system of 10 million $, whereas in one of my two references if there shows a cost of 4,5 million $, in addition if the General Atomics MQ-1C Herd Eagle costs today 8 millions of $, the UAV of the one that was developed 14 years ago cannot cost 10 million $.
C) The unitary cost says to the system, not to the UAV that it integrates it, nobody buys an alone UAV, or an UAV and a console, the complete system is acquired, as with the systems of anti-aircraft missiles no country buys X batteries, buys the system that includes multiple batteries. -- Codepage ( talk) 07:00, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/08/earlyshow/saturday/main20117624.shtml Virus infects Pentagon drones' computers
Solid enough to add yet? Should this go under the USAF Cyber Command page instead? Hcobb ( talk) 16:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
The endurance is stated to be 24 hours. The range is 1100km, and the stalling speed is around 100km/h. So even if a predator flies at its stalling speed, it can only fly for 1100/100=11 hours. Something must be wrong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.190.253.150 ( talk) 00:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems like vandalism. The car became scrap metal!
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Video from April 11, 2014 shows a Predator drone flying over the Amurskiy Bridge in Dnipropetrovsk in southern Ukraine. Note, that the landing gear are down, indicating that it is operating from a base or airfield near by.
Are there any reliable sources for this operation? -- Petri Krohn ( talk) 05:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
In this article its written:
1 × Rotax 914F turbocharged four-cylinder engine, 115 hp[108] (86 kW (4.8 kW redudant/6.4hp))
But in the Engine article:
Maximum 84 kW (115 hp) at 5,800 rpm, with 5 minute time limit; 73 kW (100 hp) continuous
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Why isn't the US Army usage mentioned in the article? Appears that several sources indicate that the US Army is flying them. -- THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 14:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
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There are two asterisks in the infobox, and there is nothing explaining what the asterisks mean. My best guess is that they denote former users, but this is not a convention used in any other aircraft articles I've seen. A reader should be able to tell quickly what an asterisk means. The more common convention in Wikipedia is to make a footnote or other type of reference. If no one can explain the asterisks, I'll remove them in a few days or whenever I return to this article. Holy ( talk) 22:10, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
The MQ-1B shot down by Syrian Air Defenses in 2015 was the last USAF-operated Predator to be shot down by hostile fire. I made an edit to reflect this, however this edit was removed claiming a lack of sourcing.
My question is this: how can the lack of an event be properly sourced? The 2015 shoot down was widely documented. There has been no documented shoot down since 2015. The type's retirement by the USAF was widely documented in 2018. Absent some news article or academic source explicitly stating that no subsequent shoot down occurred between 2015 and 2018, what is the proper way to source that this was indeed the last acknowledged loss of a USAF MQ-1B due to hostile fire? I would argue that the appropriate sourcing of the 2015 shoot down, combined with the appropriate sourcing of the type's 2018 retirement, combined with the absence of any documentation referencing a shoot down between 2015 and 2018, should be sufficient to state that the 2015 shoot down was the last MQ-1 combat loss suffered by the USAF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MCQknight ( talk • contribs) 16:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)