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The article should cover men in 80%: why they die, where they die, how ill they become, sex (not "gender") differences in these outcomes, what impact it has on the society including the close ones, etc. Now it covers women in 80%. It is wrong.
The reason is simple. Death is more important than living as caretakers etc.
This sample sentence is nonsensical in the COVID-19 context:
"Women as caretakers ... Evidence from past disease outbreaks show that women are more likely to be caregivers for the sick individuals in the family, making them more vulnerable to infection"
Well, but then they are less vulnerable to death itself, as they survive more here, so they are in luck. Basic statistics and common sense.
Let us restore balance.
Zezen ( talk) 10:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
I don't think these comments are constructive. This is not a humorous subject and WP:NOTFORUM applies here. Please say what you think is wrong, why you think it is wrong, what changes you would like to be made and what reliable sources should be used to support those changes. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 16:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree that the article is incomplete and does not cover mens' issues enough. However, this is not a reason to disregard what is covered by the article entirely and the above discussion does not hold up to any standard. The amount of unpaid care work has increased massively due to the virus (schools closed, sick family, etc.) and since women do the majority of it, they are thus, in fact, (negatively) effected by the virus in a gender-specific way. The same goes for the increase in domestic violence, which is again directed towards women in the majority of cases. Stating that "objectively men are more affected by the disease" without any citation is just plain ridiculous, they do die at a higher rate, but that is not the full extent of the virus (especially considering that escalations of domestic violence can end in death as well). Further, implying that the authors "fish out lots of articles etc written by activists (feminists, intersectionalists, etc)" in this case is equally absurd, as most citations are peer-reviewed articles or from the New York Times, neither of which fall in the mentioned category. So instead of leaving a bunch of horribly unscientific comments, how about approaching the problem in constructive way and creating one section for each sex and actually filling the one on men with factual statements and citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:C221:5C00:CD8:6ED9:C9C9:874A ( talk) 22:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there a parallel page about other demographic impact of the pandemic?
There is extensive data on racial + ethnic breakdowns of cases + deaths, by country and region, which seems like enough source material for such a page. – SJ + 23:04, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Sanitary supplies were apparently not considered essential in India. - Yupik ( talk) 20:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
"The highest risk for men is in their 50s, with the gap between men and women closing only at 90."
Yes, the reason being that the population of 90+ year olds has a considerable female majority (by virtue of the universal fact that women, on average, live longer than men). So of course, even though a 90 year old man is going to have a higher risk of dying from the virus than a 90 year old woman, there aren't many 90 year old men compared to 90 year old women.
So it only "closes" because of the disparity at that age group between numbers of each sex/gender, and not because the higher risk to men is somehow reduced. Sumorsǣte ( talk) 14:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
According to an official government report on deaths in the UK: BBC News. I trust this article will be updated accordingly, because at the moment it reads as though women are the ones being affected more! Thanks 2.25.254.143 ( talk) 14:43, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello all! I want to bring in more current sources and information to this page, given the rapid rate at which situations are currently changing due to COVID-19. As new statistics and information come out regarding the gendered impact of COVID-19, I wish to update the page. Also, there are sections that seem to need more information or perhaps be restructured into other sections, like the clinical trial section. I hope to work with other wikipedians and welcome any feedback on how to make this page better. Thanks! Melired ( talk) 02:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
A section on the 'Impact on Sexuality' has recently been added - had a couple of queries in terms of cleanup. A lot of the information appears to be about intercourse habits - may be worth adding some of this information into the section on 'Sexual intercourse and COVID-19'. Some of the information does not appear to directly correspond to the impact of the pandemic on sexuality. Although the information is verifiable, the 'Sexual intercourse' section does not actually explain any gendered differences or impact caused by the pandemic.
Finally, the section on 'Impact on Sexuality' relies on one source - worth adding in other sources to increase the sources and verifiability of this section. FrankieBruno ( talk) 10:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I've collated a number of resources and reports focusing specifically on the 'Gendered Impact' of the Pandemic. I've seen the page has been flagged for a clean up so it may be worth inputting some of the information from the following reports to add further detail whilst cleaning up/refining some of the sections.
UN Women - Whose Time to Care?
How are mothers and fathers balancing work and family under lockdown?
Covid-19: the impacts of the pandemic on inequality
How the COVID-19 Crisis is Exacerbating Gender Inequality
Understanding the impact of Covid-19 on women
Covid-19 and Gender Equality: Countering the Regressive Effects
Gender Equality in the Wake of Covid-19 FrankieBruno ( talk) 12:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
As of writing this (November 29, 2021), such section is redacted in a way that is more akin to a personal opinion rather than a well constructed, factual and authoritative statement, using first person and jumping to conclusions without presenting a well constructed argument. In its current state the text does not adequately describe the situation and needs to be reworked or removed altogether. Holothurion ( talk) 11:21, 29 November 2021 (UTC)