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Do split the article, I think it benifets because when I click From Russia With Love (or any Bond film) It normally starts up the top and the picture is novel and the film is halfway down. Broncopaul 10:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
I checked and he (Grant) is both stabbed in the femoral triangle area and, finally, shot several times with the book gadget. I left "killed" in the main page. Therefore I was wrong about the "stabbed, not shot" part; but, since: he 1.isn't killed instantly and 2. massive hemorrhage is apparent, we (I) can argue that it was the massive hemorrhage that killed Grant, which came both from trauma in the femoral artery (as Bond originally intended) and the gunshots. What did him in, finally, are the shots; nevertheless, the stabbing played a large part in the hemorrhage. To conclude, I think 'killed' is more accurate than simply 'shot' and far more accurate than 'stabbed' (as I mentioned in my original edit). But I think I am nitpicking here... -- Haris 18:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
At some point one of the book cover images was replaced, but I have reverted this change. Specifically, a low-quality photograph of the 1960 Pan edition replaced a scan of the 1959 Pan edition. I reverted this because at the NovelsWikiProject we're supposed to illustrate the earlier edition if possible, plus the image of the 1959 edition was better in quality than the non-scan that was used for the 1960 edition. We actually have too many editions here so I will remove the 1970 nude cover which I had uploaded back when there were no other editions illustrated. 23skidoo 15:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Darko was not killed by Red Grant, as this article suggests, but rather by the MGB man, Benz. This scenario is depicted at the end of Chapter 23, "Out of Greece." Furthermore, Grant himself states in Chapter 26, "The Killing Bottle" that: 'This Turk of yours had to be got rid of. I gather that took a bit of doing,' indicating that he had no part in the murder. I'm a bit new to this Wikipedia business and thought it more appropriate to bring this correction to attention here. Perhaps someone familiar with protocol, standards, and the like can make the corrections. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.9.250.6 ( talk) 03:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
There is a "citation needed" for the claim that the film version of From Russia With Love is well regarded by critics and fans. I'm new to Wiki, so I don't know if Rotten Tomatoes or the IMDB are acceptable sources, but they show the film as highly rated.
Rotten Tomatoes IMDB —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ted 3000 ( talk • contribs) 02:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC). Ted 3000 03:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed this entire section, since it appears to be nothing but opinion and broad speculation and doesn't even cite whose opinion it is. -- Tysto 22:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I propose that this article be moved to From Russia with Love (novel) to make this article consistent with the majority of the James Bond novel articles. Besides, there's a film and a video game with the same name. Why should this article get the benefit of being just From Russia with Love? Emperor001 ( talk) 02:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 19:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 05:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
This move request has been withdrawn by myself. YeshuaDavid ( talk) 19:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Ian Rose ( talk · contribs) 09:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Can't miss this one... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 09:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Toolbox check -- no dab or EL probs.
Prose/Content -- a few things:
Referencing/Structure/Images -- no issues.
Summary –- nice work as usual, I was particularly pleased to see you work in Benson's "Fleming Sweep", which always struck me as a keen observation; if you can just deal with the minor points above I'll have no prolem passing this. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 06:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
if Grant kills Kerim (making it seem as though Kerim and Benz killed each other), leaves the train and boards it again at Trieste- this could be made a whole lot clearer by including the bit about, well, his leaving the train; otherwise it just seems... erm... at best, muddled. Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I have recently revised the Plot section and had it reverted with no reason given. It suffered from personal interpretation and several inaccuracies. The most serious was the nonsensical claim that Grant was responsible for faking the deaths of Darko Kerim and the third Soviet agent, of which there is no mention in the novel. Again, it is Kerim alone who identifies that there are three MGB agents on the train; and it wasn't a magazine into which Bond slipped his cigarette case to evade being killed but a book by Eric Ambler. Perhaps User:SchroCat will discuss the reasons for his plot reversions here first before taking such action again. : Mzilikazi1939
An administrator has suggested we try compromise before we seek third-party opinions. I have made changes in the last but one para which I hope will not be found controversial in line with discussion above. Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 14:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you stop edit warring please. Everything you are doing either breaches the MoS, or breaks the formatting. You are also at WP:3RR, do you are best advised not to revert again. - SchroCat ( talk) 09:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
> please note Wikipedia:Citing sources . . Linking to Google Books pages
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/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Linking_to_Google_Books_pages < <
"Google Books sometimes allows numbered book pages to be linked to directly. . . . No editor is required to add page links, but if another editor adds them, they should not be removed without cause . ."
The Look Magazine from March 1961 availability is on Google Books and is used in the From Russia with Love (novel) Wikipedia article.
In my edit I took the Wikipedia reader to a specific page with the Google Books publication of the Look Magazine by specific word search of
kennedy ten favorites Ian Fleming LIFE 1961 LOVE
which found this page
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=vUUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA59&dq=kennedy+ten+favorites+Ian+Fleming+LIFE+1961+LOVE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUlNqa0vToAhUMOisKHeVIBTkQ6AEISzAE#v=onepage&q=kennedy%20ten%20favorites%20Ian%20Fleming%20LIFE%201961%20LOVE&f=false .
The Wikipedia guideline is "No editor is required to add page links, but if another editor adds them, they should not be removed without cause . ."
The page was found by me by reference to chosen words sought within the magazine. The page was not found by reference to the page number itself.
Nevertheless your guideline as you would be informed by Wikipedia for linking to Google Books pages is "No editor is required to add page links, but if another editor adds them, they should not be removed without cause . ."
I have added a page link and it has been removed with the cause that it offends by your evaluation Wikipedia:Manual of Style.
The possibility, I trust, would be that you consider the re-installation of the reference that links to the Look Magazine page that is specific to President Kennedy's choice of ten favourite books.
Wikipedia:Citing sources >
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citing_sources
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Linking_to_Google_Books_pages
. . . -- Laurencebeck ( talk) 14:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
For the Wikipedia reader, you give the link to the Look Magazine published by Google Books on the internet, which observable link to that reader only contains this information >
Sidey, Hugh (17 March 1961). "The President's Voracious Reading Habits". Life. 50 (11): 59. ISSN 0024-3019. Archived from the original on 6 May 2016. Retrieved 5 October 2011.
Your link takes the reader to the cover only of the publication.
The article begins on p.55 and the President's list of 10 books is on p.59.
While the information that can be read by touching the reference on the article page, again I repeat here>
Sidey, Hugh (17 March 1961). "The President's Voracious Reading Habits". Life. 50 (11): 59. ISSN 0024-3019. Archived from the original on 6 May 2016. Retrieved 5 October 2011.
does contain the lone figure 59 (the page number in the publication where the list is printed) it is meaningless to a browsing Wikipedia reader like me. The isolated number 59 does not tell me to scroll to p.59 of the magazine.
Within what a reader may see I added to in previous edits to indicate that scrolling to p.59 will find what the Wikipedia article text draws to the reader's attention.
You, as a guardian of British popular culture in Wikipedia, have your concept of the greater appropriatness of what should be accessible, but I cannot see that a direction to a publication's front cover with no direction to contents therein is telling anyone anything. Again, you are the representative of Her Majesty's culture. With hope, receive the necessary deference owed to you.-- Laurencebeck ( talk) 01:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)