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– there is no one topic which is "more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term".
In ictu oculi (
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10:19, 14 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment -
Gothicfilm, This is a common misunderstanding of how
WP:NOTADICTIONARY works. The real question here is whether the 1972 Hitchcock film is the primary topic or not. If it is, then we leave it, if not then the Dab page becomes
Frenzy and the film becomes Frenzy (1972 film), i.e. no primary topic. I haven't made my mind up where I stand on this yet, i'd like to see some statistics. InsertCleverPhraseHere15:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Not many people are likely to go to an encyclopedia to look up an emotion called Frenzy. Thus the 1972 film is the primary topic. -
Gothicfilm (
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15:34, 14 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Looking at the
pageview comparison of the topics on the disambiguation page, it shows that
Frenzy gets about 74% of pageviews for these topics. That's certainly much more than all the others combined. Of course, because the film article is at the basename, it gets views from people who do not want the film article. So it is also important to note that while the film article gets around 334 views per day, the dab page only gets about 6 views per day, or less than 2% of the traffic to the film article. The film is also a well known work of Alfred Hitchcock, which gives it long-term significance. All together, it seems like a pretty solid primarytopic, and the current setup does a good job directing our readers where they want to go.
Dohn joe (
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17:57, 14 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Neutral, leaning oppose. The film receives
63% of all page views among the 10 articles actually called "Frenzy" (including
Joanna Cargill, the superhero). This means it's significantly more likely to be sought by readers than all those other topics combined. However, the question remains as to how many people are searching for the topics with no articles of their own, and especially, if people are searching for
Rage (emotion) under "frenzy". There's no firm answer, but it's typically a more popular article than the film.
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Cúchullaint/
c14:13, 16 March 2016 (UTC)reply
I'd say some of that answer comes from the pageview comparison, which shows that
Frenzy gets around 330 views per day, while the dab page only gets about 6 views. Of course that doesn't account for everyone who arrived at the film article looking for Rage (or something else), but it does show that only a small percentage of people opted for the dab page, which is the obvious next step for someone in that scenario.
Dohn joe (
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15:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)reply
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