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Famously, Zuzana Růžičková claimed that Hirsch saved her life. JezGrove ( talk) 22:35, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Vami IV ( talk · contribs) 11:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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Dirk Kämper found no evidence that Hirsch had ever been enrolled there, but found that he probably attended lectures."Found" is used twice here and to the detriment of the sentence.
Brno [...] CzechoslovakiaLink.
As it is, this section reminds me of Belgium. "Germany" deals with Hirsch's early life and education in Germany, while "Czechoslovakia" details his flight from Germany and work in Czechoslovakia and work during the early Holocaust. I would delete the "Germany" header and move "Czechoslovakia" to "Holocaust". —
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Hirsch took over the leadership of the scouting branch of the local Aachen Jewish youth associationThis scouting?
Jüdischer Pfadfinderbund DeutschlandTranslate name (Jewish Scouting Association of Germany, if I'm not mistaken) and put in the parentheses following the German name.
Fredy and PaulFrequent occurrence here. Replace with surnames per MOS:SURNAME.
To distinguish between people with the same surname in the same article or page, use given names or complete names to refer to each of the people upon first mention. For subsequent uses, refer to them by their given names for clarity and brevity.
Survivors reported that Czech songs were written about him.Not really the best place for this to be. This is also inexact; I would assume from the prose quoted here that are indeed Czech-language songs about Fredy Hirsch.
He maintained good posture and an impeccable appearance, including combed hair and polished boots,[14][25] and reportedly continued to pomade his hair at Auschwitz.[31]
Because of Hirsch's German heritage, his confidence, and his appearance, he was able to establish a good relationship with SS guards even though he was Jewish and openly gay.
Jews from TheresienstadtFirst sentence in "Auschwitz" used this, no need to use it again for the second.
Hirsch was initially appointed the lagerälteste of the family camp,Delete "initially".
Arno BöhmWho is this?
German criminal Arno BöhmThis still doesn't tell me who Arno Böhm is. –Vami
a children's opera was performedJust once?
and supplies were scroungedI have an issue with using the word "scrounge" here. It makes it sound like like Hirsch and associates were digging those supplies out of the trash or begging for them, rather than convincing the Germans to furnish them as Hirsch had done prior.
According to Zuzana Růžičková, on one occasion, Hirsch said to an SS man, "Herr Oberscharführer, who have you killed and looted today?"[i] in order to distract him from Růžičková's unauthorized presence.There's no transition to this from the rest of the paragraph, and I don't know where Růžičková was or why.
[...] because he did not smoke.Redundant, remove.
it was performed on 23 January.Break this clause off into its own sentence and include the year.
The appreciation that Hirsch received for his untiring efforts is shown by a surprise birthday party that the children threw for him on 11 February 1944 for his 28th birthday.Not NPOV, uses present-tense. Simplify.
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Fredy_Hirsch#Auschwitz says "These efforts were part of an effort to mislead the Red Cross about the Final Solution in advance of the June 1944 Red Cross visit to Theresienstadt; the Germans were also considering a Red Cross visit to the family camp at Birkenau." but Theresienstadt_family_camp#Background seems to indicate that this isn't necessarily true. I don't have access to the book that was cited for that in question, so I thought it'd be worth trying to find more sources to reconcile this inconsistency. – FenixFeather (talk) (Contribs) 23:59, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
In the legacy section, the word "tzadik" is translated as righteous or decent. It does not translate to decent, just righteous. I suggest that should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkelber ( talk • contribs) 19:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
The stolperstein for Fredy Hirsch is located at Martin-Luther-Straße 7 in Aachen and not at Richardstraße 7 as stated in the article. The stone was erroneously laid on Richardstraße first. The picture is up-to-date with the correct coordinates. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stolperstein_Fredy_Hirsch;_50.77398_6.09503;_Martin-Luther-Stra%C3%9Fe_7;_February_2024_in_Aachen;_2024_photographs_of_Aachen.jpg and as source i have also this: https://www.stolpersteine-homosexuelle.de/fredy-hirsch . This source is old (and also wrong): http://www.wgdv.de/stolpersteine/personenverzeichnis/90-hirsch,-alfred-fredy Qwertzu111111 ( talk) 08:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)