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I guess I'm at a loss here. Why are Buffalo's parks really any more special than Olmsted's other great works? He completed a major parks/parkway system in Louisville, so why can't that also be promoted? And that's my point-- that Buffalo is getting unfair promotion here at the expense of others. — Stevie is the man! Talk | Contrib 15:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Well there is a pretty good list [I did a lot of it myself] of his other commissions, but feel free to add to it. However, if we are going to accept this Buffalo thing [could this be where the word "buffaloed" comes from?] Let's do it right [write?]. Using the word "create' three times won't do, and having 'entire' twice is not much better. So i changed those. And TC, why don't you register with wikipedia so that you are . . .. more of a somebody, rather than a disenbodied point of view? It is interesting to note that while Olmstead's Buffalo commission takes up perhaps 20% of the vertical size of the article, it rates less than one page out of about 200 in Hall's book. Carptrash 08:12, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I've checked a few sources online. I tried to eliminate the ones that are clearly or probably relying on our article in either of its versions (the birthdate given in our article was recently changed). I'm still left confused. More sources seem to give the date as April 26, including About.com, a University of Texas site, and the Writer's Almanac. In the April 27 camp, however, we find the 1911 Britannica. It would be nice if someone could resolve this. JamesMLane 06:13, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I just stubbed the Frederick Law Olmsted, Jr. and I must admit landscape architecture is a bit outside of my field, so if anyone would be so kind as to add some information to it, that'd be very helpful. Thanks. --Cyde Weys [u] [t] [c] 07:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Olmstead is my great X4 uncle. I looked into the Downing page, after I read that he died "a hero's death" on this page. Yet, in the Downing page it says "In a rare moment of cowardice" he died after jumping ship! Can you explain this dramatic contradiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.100.171 ( talk) 22:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
The article, I think, needs to be expanded with some more on Riverside Illinois, planned by Olmstead and Calvert Vaux. Riverside is one of the first planned communities and as important as the Neighborhood Unit, the Radburn Idea and the Garden City for Urban Planning. VRS 07:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Downing actually died while saving his mother-in-law in the Hudson River, so I would say that it's more of a "hero's death." Also, William Cullen Bryant was the first person to come up with the idea for a central public park. He was then joined by Downing and together, they planned Central Park. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.58.72 ( talk) 05:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Can someone show me the source of any information about Olmsted's tour of China and his involvement with The Nation? I'm just not seeing anything about a lot of this, which makes me wonder about most of the non-career early biographical material here. I'm willing to accept that I'm probably mistaken here, but can we please cite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmlaenker ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to recommend listing Boston's parks under a single heading:
Emerald Necklace parks and parkways
The E.N. and each park and parkway have their own Wiki pages, and they are historically united. It will put all the Boston parks in one place. MarkinBoston 18:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
You have listed Audubon Park in New Orleans as a Fred Olmsted commission, but actually Audubon Park was design by Frederick Olmsted's nephew, John Olmsted.
Removed. Be bold! MarkinBoston 18:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The top of the page seems to have some broken code. Can someone that knows how fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubeofmoon ( talk • contribs) 03:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I think/feel [think/feel, think/feel, think/feel] that arranging the reference chronologically is not a good idea. Bibliographies, and this is really what this list is, are ALWAYS arranged alphabetically by the authors’ last names. Which is what I'm about to do here unless someone arrives with a good counter point real soon . Carptrash 19:18, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Olmsted wrote quite a few books. [1] of which only one is cited while others are alluded to. A bibliographic section is needed. -- Larry Koenigsberg ( talk) 16:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I feel as if this article has many things wrong with it. I am a descendent of Olmsted, and i have a book of geneology in my possesion. Many things in this article contridict the biography of Olmsted in my book. I believe that my book is reliable, but i dont want to change anything just yet.--Solm12 20:43 15 Nov 2009
Alluded to and external-linked in the article, Olmsted was a member of a Board of Commissioners "appointed to manage the grant of the Yosemite Valley and the Mariposa Big Tree Grove from Congress to the State of California as a park." My brief Web search has not substantiated Olmsted's relationship with John Muir. My understanding is that Olmsted as a member of the Commission suggested to Muir that he get himself to Yosemite, thus initiating Muir's lifelong relationship with that locale. -- Larry Koenigsberg ( talk) 16:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Do the works of the sons belong in a list for the father? The sons' business has its own page. The man died in 1903, and campuses built in 1925 are on the list. Makes no sense to me. MarkinBoston 18:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The mention of Humboldt Park (Chicago park) in Frederick Law Olmsted#GHI contradicts information in that article (and verified by the Chicago Park District. This may have been added due to the popular misconception that Olmsted designed all the parks on the Chicago Boulevard ring (as stated in this article, he only designed the southern section), or it may be a confusion with Olmsted's Martin Luther King, Jr. Park, formerly called Humboldt Park. Either way, it is erroneous and I am deleting it from the article. Ibadibam ( talk) 09:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm reading the University of Nebraska Press edition of "A Journey through Texas", so I was surprised to read that Omsted thought at this time that slavery was expensive and economically inefficient. On the contrary, the narrative he paints seems to be that slavery is obscenely and immorally profitable. This hardly supports the hypothesis that slavery would eventually have died for economic reasons. I'm only halfway through the book. There have been three or four anecdotal discussions of the economics so far. Here are two I found scanning back through it:
I can highly recommend the book. One can't help but be impressed by Olmsted's frankness and powers of observation. -- 24.242.102.204 ( talk) 15:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Here he reports some Texan assessments of the economics:
page 212: "With regard to slavery, for instance, these gentlemen, I doubt not, honestly and confidently believe the institution to be a beneficial one; gradually and surely making Negroes a civilized and Christian people and paying its way (perhaps with handsome dividends) to the capitalists who are the stockholders; that all the cruelty, or most of it, is a necessary part of the process, necessary at least in the present constitution of property and of society."
I am now at the part of the book where he expresses an opinion supporting the text:
In the immediately following pages, he estimates the profits both with and without slaves, but comparing a kind of mixed farming with free labor to cotton with slaves. In those estimates, free labor is more economical than slavery. However, without explanation, he lowers the production of cotton "per hand" to 3 to 5 when previous anecdotes he related were in the eight to ten range. -- 24.242.102.204 ( talk) 18:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
^ "F. L Olmstead is Dead; End Comes to Great Landscape Architect at Waverly, Mass. Designer of Central and Prospect Parks and Other Famous Garden Spots of American Cities." New York Times. August 29, 1903. Also a noted peadophile.
I have a little knowledge of Frederick Law Olmsted, but not that much about his private life. Was he a "noted peadophile" (pedophile) or is this someone's sick joke? Jtyroler ( talk) 19:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
After adding a couple of sites under "Olmsted Sites by State and Province", the columns were of uneven length, so I adjusted them. However, they now appear with uneven widths. I spent a good 40 minutes trying to figure out how to make them equal, more or less, without success. If someone has the expertise, please make the fix and share how you did it. It would also be helpful to eliminate all the [Edit] buttons that appear all over these three columns. Thanks. Yoho2001 ( talk) 01:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
when exactly does Calvert ask for Olmstead assistance for the central park design? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.198.123 ( talk) 02:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
From Rosenzweig's article reports a minor error: "Frederick Law Olmsted is said to have managed the Mariposa mining estate after the Civil War, rather than in 1863.[...] The Olmsted entry has him (correctly) forming Olmsted, Vaux and Company in 1865 at the same time that he is (incorrectly) in California running Mariposa. ".-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
This entry is incomplete until we get Fred's daughter's name! In the bio it gives the name of his little boy, but not his little girl! We don't want the wiki to be accused of being sexist! (believe me, people will do the accusations!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.143.173 ( talk) 20:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Should there be a list-type article, or one of those navbox footers, or a category for Olmsted's works? Or all three maybe?-- A bit iffy ( talk) 12:26, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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I'm seeing this sentence is the article right now: "His work, especially in Central Park in New York City, set a standard of excellence that continues to influence landscape architecture in the United States."
I may be biased (as I'm originally from Brooklyn), but I think Prospect Park is far more beautiful and visitor-friendly than Central Park. It's sometimes referred to as "The park that learned from Central Park's mistakes." Olmsted and the other designers had advantages that were missing in Central Park -- for example, a larger, less narrow piece of land so that there are many places in Prospect Park where you can't even tell you're in a city, can't see any buildings against the sky at all, just trees and other natural features.
This is very subjective, of course, but I wonder if that sentence in the article falsely implies that Central Park was his greatest achievement? What is the objective basis for claiming that Central Park (as opposed to Olmsted's work as a whole) "set a standard"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.13.46 ( talk) 22:31, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be one sortable list of all his works, instead of two lists (one alphabetical, one by state and city) of just the "other" works? When this article was developed (starting 2005) sortable lists were not possible. Ordered by state and city, sortable to alphabetical order. -- do ncr am 20:26, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Far too often I consult Wikipedia in vain to answer a simple question. When did FLO relocate to the Boston area? It doesn't say. It only names the year he established his firm in Brookline, calling the property a "home and office compound." A home for whom?
The 1st page of the introduction of Southworth & Southworth's AIA Guide to Boston, 2nd ed., 1992 says FLO "relocated here [Boston] from New York because he found Boston more sympathetic to his progressive ideas...." So it's a rather important topic, I'd say. Hence:
1. Did Olmsted live at Fairsted? 2. Was 1883 the year he founded the firm and moved his residence to the Boston area? 3. From where did he relocate?
Article Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site needs to state more in this regard as well.
Jimlue ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:42, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I've corrected one instance in the article of 'Olmstead', but the spelling 'Olmstead' does occur in the link (currently No 30) https://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/olmstead-point/olmstead-point.htm This is a misspelling on the system at yosemitehikes.com, but the name is correctly spelled in the page linked and the reference link should not be 'corrected' (or it won't work). Sarandone2 ( talk) 14:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
This article says the company lasted until 1980. The article on the company (Olmsted Brothers) says it MOVED in 1980, lasting in fact until 2000. Wikipedia articles should be consistent with each other. Kdammers ( talk) 16:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)