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How does it make sense that he is listed under 1892 births? That would make him 13 years old both in that picture and when he scored 14 goals in a game. -- Hmmmmm382
I've added more information. His correct birth date is known. Alaney2k 15:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Frank McGee was 6'0 feets, 191 pounds and was born in 1879. The Ultimate Hockey book (Weir, Chapman, Weir) is my source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.66.176 ( talk) 01:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Frank McGee doed at 35 years of age like the article linked tell. 1916 minus 35 = 1879. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.66.176 ( talk) 04:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Frank McGee was definitely not 6 feet tall. I have not see any source for that. It would definitely be incorrect if that is the listing in Ultimate Hockey, which I don't think is considered encyclopedic. As for his DOB, November 04, 1882 is the accepted date. Alaney2k ( talk) 19:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC) As for the age, the article is typed in from a scan and incorrectly transcribed 33 as 35. Alaney2k ( talk) 21:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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Jeez, what a lot of comments! Can I add one of my own? A question, actually. His 14 goals against Dawson City are listed as having been scored on 7 Feb but also in January. Which one's correct? All the best, Cris Freddi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.193.152 ( talk) 00:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The best research ever done on Frank McGee - and not reflected here on Wiki - is an article entitled "Killing Frank McGee" published in 2000 in The Society for International Hockey Research Journal. This article was renamed "The Death of Frank McGee" in the encylclopedia "Total Hockey." It is also included in Reddick's newest book, "The Trail Less Traveled," released 1/1/10 by Nauset Sound Publishing. It includes many answers to questions above, as well as much new information. For instance, it is now accepted that he was born 1880. His body lies where he was killed, beside "The Sugar Factory" in a field in Corcelette, France. He was killed by artillery fire, a fact even his family previously did not know. He did not lose an eye, but the vision in one eye. His medical chart does not read (whatever is quoted above, something about seeing at required distance with both eyes), but Reddick has advanced the most plausible explanation of why he was allowed into the army, contrary to the myth expounded by his nephew, Frank McGee in the article. Of interest: he also had two goals called back for offsides in his historic 14 goal game against Dawson, which was played on January 16, 1905. Great new information on that game has just been published by Paul Kitchen in his "Win, Tie, or Wrangle" book on Ottawa hockey, particularly about the motivation - another obscure myth/legend - for his outburst. Reddick's article should be read by someone who knows how to edit this page, and incorporated. Reddick is the real deal, probably one of the best researchers and hockey writers working today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albymason ( talk • contribs) 23:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I have removed (performed an "undo") of the claim that Frank McGee scored the "First Ever Ovechtrick" in hockey history. The term "Ovechtrick" is a fabricated term for a fictional occurrence in a Verizon commercial in which hockey player Alex Ovechkin scores nine consecutive goals in two different games he plays in. Though it is a recognized term in pop culture, it is not officially deemed a term in standard dictionaries. Therefore, it should not be used in a factual sense to describe factual information. Simply indicating that McGee scored 14 goals in a game is sufficient.
Though the above argument should be sufficient to overrule an inclusion of this term, I feel the need to further defend this argument by means of providing the Verizon commercial's own definition of the term "Ovechtrick," which is as follows:
By this definition, the nine goals scored would have to be consecutive (i.e.: scored by McGee, one after the other, without another player scoring a goal in between the nine goals he scored). In researching information about the game played by McGee in which he scores 14 of the 23 goals, there is no official box score that would indicate that nine of his fourteen goals scored were scored consecutively. It is quite possible that this did occur. But it is also possible that McGee scored eight goals in a row, followed by his teammate scoring a goal, then McGee scoring another six goals, with his teammates scoring the remaining eight goals. Without an official box score, which is how current hockey statistics are recorded, and without any other proof from video or observer recollection in a newspaper article, there is no proof that McGee scored nine consecutive goals in the game against the team from Dawson City. WeatherExperiment ( talk) 22:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
In reference to the above, I found some documented information at the website documenting the history of the home of John McGee, father of Frank McGee. In it is a section called "Frank McGee, a hockey legend" and it talks about the 23-2 game in which McGee "put forth his, most legendary performance by scoring a Stanley Cup record of 14 goals in the second match. During the 23-2 rout, the Ottawa star at one point recorded eight consecutive goals in less than nine minutes." [1] This would further corroborate the fact that identifying any nine of McGee's 14 goals scored in that game as an "Ovechtrick" is, in fact, a false interpretation. WeatherExperiment ( talk) 16:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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