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BetacommandBot15:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)reply
"Prior to construction by the WMATA, Franconia鈥揝pringfield station was the site of Franconia Station, a standard railroad station built by the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac Railroad. It was built in 1870 and torn down in 1952.[2]" - this is incorrect. station was originally planned to be at old station site, but new station is actually abt a mile southwest of there. footnote refers to old site, not the current. 鈥 Preceding
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71.163.18.75 (
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14:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)reply
No Amtrak service
Amtrak appears to have dropped Franconia-Springfield. I can't find a good source, but it no longer shows up as a bookable option and it's not on the Spring/Summer 2010 timetable.
Mackensen(talk)21:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)reply
I can't find a good source for it, either. I've gone ahead and commented out all the Amtrak stuff in the infobox for now, because the text doesn't discuss Amtrak, and so it's a fairly easy removal. Once we get a firm source, we can remove the Amtrak stuff entirely, but it is difficult to prove a negative...
SchuminWeb (
Talk)
23:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Amtrak
still has a page for the station, but it's not showing up anywhere else on the website. I hid the category for Former Amtrak stations just in case you two are right, and if you are, I don't think it's "past" service to Amtrak should be eliminated from the article. ----
DanTD (
talk)
18:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Mentioning "past service to Amtrak", there is currently no mention in the text itself about Amtrak, and there really should be. That's a bit problematic in itself, but nothing we can't fix.
SchuminWeb (
Talk)
18:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Yes, we could. We could mention that it was also an Amtrak station between 1997 and 2010, especially if we can find an exact date in which Amtrak terminated service there. Aside from this, what I'd also like to do is find out if this was a replacement for some old run down
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac station that existed in the area, even if it was torn down a few decades before this station was built. ----
DanTD (
talk)
19:12, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Fiftytwo thirty, one of those links was great. I just added the TrainWeb link to the RF&P page a few minutes agon. Another used named
User:Relantel was doing some extensive work on the RF&P article and I praised him for it, but he suddenly stopped. ----
DanTD (
talk)
22:21, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Have not abandoned the RF&P article - as for the old question - I don't believe the Franconia station was still a stop when Amtrak took over; it's physical location is north of the Franconia/Springfield stop by a half-mile or mile or so. Where F/S is where the Franconia/Springfield Parkway crosses the tracks, the old Franconia station was just north of the Franconia Road overpass.
Relantel (
talk)
16:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)reply
The question still lingers
The issue of if and when Amtrak dropped service at Franconia-Springfield still remains unanswered. If nobody has considered doing so themselves, I might even go so far as to calling Amtrak on the phone and asking them about this. ----
DanTD (
talk)
14:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)reply
I thought about but it wouldn't be verifiable unless we somehow convinced Amtrak to issue a statement. They've definitely dropped service; the station is no longer listed on the timetable and you can't book a trip to/from it.
Mackensen(talk)23:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Yeah, calling Amtrak = original research, which is, as you know, a no-no. Getting Amtrak to issue a statement = good, because we can cite that.
SchuminWeb (
Talk)
23:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Okay, so a phone call it out of the question. How about an e-mail? Whatever their reply is, we can always use that as a source. Incidentally, 5230 mentioned something about the station getting stimulus funds as an active Amtrak station, and we both pointed out that Amtrak still has a page for the station. In any case, let's write to them about it. ----
DanTD (
talk)
02:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Maybe we could just find some of the old timetables to use as sources for the first/last time that Amtrak stopped there based on when they went into effect. (Which seems to be a better citation than an email) The Stimulus funds may have been in some way related to Amtrak operating VRE, particularly since Crystal City is also on that list. On a side note, the
VRE Schedule says that various Amtrak trains stop at L'Enfant Plaza -- which does not seem to be an Amtrak station. --
Fiftytwo thirty (
talk)
03:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)reply
No, since I don't have any timetables that are recent enough. The newest timetable I have is from Fall 2005-Winter 2006. I wrote an e-mail to Amtrak on September 16, and they told me "We respond to online inquiries 7 days a week between the hours of 8 am and 11 pm (ET). You can expect a response to your inquiry within the next 24 hours. Please do not reply to this message." I have yet to hear from them about this. ----
DanTD (
talk)
19:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)reply
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鈥 Following the
move of the Green Line stations per the new
WP:USSTATION guideline, these stations should have
WP:NATURAL disambiguation (and eventually, consistency within the whole system). I think consensus there can be interpreted as a mandate to move them all, but for now, I thought this would be helpful for more pairs of eyes to check for possible naming conflicts. --
BDD (
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19:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)reply
Problem:
User:Epicgenius has gone ahead and moved a bunch of these pages, and more, with capitalized "Station", citing the Greenbelt RM as reason, without waiting for the resolution of the case question or this RM discussion or others.
Dicklyon (
talk)
02:34, 5 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Support per
WP:USSTATION. Adding station to the article title provides natural disambiguation, without the need for parenthetical disambiguation (in most cases) per
WP:NATURAL. Regarding capitalization, if "station" is not in the official name (and I do not think it is), then it should be lowercase. If "Station" is in the official station name, then it should be capitalized. Also, I spelled out Avenue in Potomac Avenue above. --
Scott Alter (
talk)
02:56, 6 January 2015 (UTC)reply
As long as we're going by how Metro names these stations, it actually is "Potomac Ave", not "Potomac Avenue", just as we don't spell out the acronyms used for universities (e.g.,
Tenleytown鈥揂U Station). See also the pictures on the relevant article. --
BDD (
talk)
14:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Support per nom with "Station" capitalized as the signs at the stations do. Would greatly prefer "Washington Metro" as a disambiguator to "WMATA" or "Virginia" which are far less helpful to readers seeking the correct article. (Yes, I know that other systems use the stations but their primary use is by Metro train and bus). 鈥
聽AjaxSmack聽03:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose the capitalized "Station" per the new USSTATION guidelines. See more comments at [Talk:Vienna_(WMATA_station)#Requested_move_23_December_2014]].
Dicklyon (
talk)
05:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)reply
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