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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The result of the move request was: moved. Of the opposes, I see disagreement with the application of
WP:CONCISE, and a singular concern of precision. Supports mention
WP:CONCISE as applying to the proposed title and cite
WP:NCROY. I see a rough consensus for this move, especially considering the strength of the recent NCROY RFC mentioned explicitly in some supports. (
closed by non-admin page mover)
Sennecaster (
Chat)
02:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong Oppose, I support some of these “of country” removals (if there is no other monarch by that name, also depending on the circumstances of the rm), but this is a bit too far. What’s next?
Charles Albert?
Charles Felix?
Beatrix? I think in the cases that there is no number the “of country” should remain. Robertus Pius (
Talk •
Contribs)19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Support. The juggernaut is rolling on this one and, despite efforts to halt it, it will continue to roll.
WP:COMMONNAME,
WP:CONCISE,
WP:PRECISE and, latterly,
WP:NCROY all support this move so there's really no grounds on which to object, other than attempting to relitigate a change to naming conventions via an RFC that has already concluded. —
Amakuru (
talk)
10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Showing the country is important in the interests of our readers and necessary to make the subject of such articles sufficiently clear. Removing it isn’t an improvement for our readers (which
policy instructs is our priority) and doesn’t seem to serve any purpose other than to satisfy a specialist editorial desire for maximal conciseness. Also, just to be very clear about this: Wikipedia nowhere asserts that the most concise unambiguous title is necessarily the best one. If it were, we’d have
US,
UK,
Cézanne,
Obama,
103rd Congress,
DTs,
Bothell,
AI, and countless other un-encyclopedic titles. The change to NCROY that prompted this and other contentious RMs was ill-considered and should be revisited.
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talk17:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.