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I oppose this merge. Splitting the information into two articles would be a disservice to readers. The base model articles can include summaries and a {{main}} template per standard practice. Highly notable racing vehicles usually have their own articles, anyway. This is a two-time world championship winning car and competed in the WRC for 12 years. Also, the
incoming 200+ wikilinks would need to be sorted out after a merge and we would still be left with the issue of where to redirect this page.
Prolog (
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07:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
I Support this merge. The article isn't very big and if it's added correctly into the Ford Focus articles it would be of more benefit to the
Ford Focus article. Thanks Jenova2008:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Well some trimming may well be necessary then, is it always necessary for about 2 pages of engine sizes or trim levels? The size is a guide not an absolute rule, it's quality over quantity so i still support a merge. Thanks Jenova2010:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Support: small-sized article, easily converted into a section within the donor vehicle article. Wikipedia should be telling the whole story, and not catering to fringe interest groups that are only interested in motorsport and not the basic vehicle that the racing/rally version derives from. Fewer articles also results in less maintenance work.
OSX (
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09:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose: Easily capable of being a standalone article, especially with results tables and other expansion. Comfortably notable in its own right, an utterly different notability from that of the road car. Merging is really quite inappropriate, and referring to motorsport enthusiasts as "fringe interest groups" is unhelpful. Nobody's advocating deletion of the road car article, they're not mutually exclusive. Furthermore, the prospect of maintenance work is not a criterion for deciding what is notable or otherwise.
Bretonbanquet (
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19:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose: the car is notable enough to deserve its own article, and length is not revelant for notability, as there is plenty of room to expand and improve the article. OSX did not provided a single argument based on Wikipedia policies to support a merge.--
Mariordo (
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02:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose: I oppose this merge, and I oppose the general push to merge all vehicles with the same or similar names into one article. If a subspecies of a model is notable on its own, independent of the notability of the model in general, it should have its own article.
Ebikeguy (
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17:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose: I think somebody who is interested in the WRC car is not interested in the road car whereas somebody who is interested in the road car is not interested in the WRC car. With exception of the name the WRC car has nothing in common with the road car. --
217.227.122.233 (
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22:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose: The Focus, and many other
World Rally Cars like the Citroens and Peugeots (less so with Subaru and Mitsubishi), were racing specials - they had little in common with the road cars except the overall shape. Adding 4WD and a turbocharger is a BIG change.
LRT24 (
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22:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment: The main
Ford Focus article probably ought to link here using the {{main}} template. It makes things nice and clear. The articles for the two generations could do so as well.
LRT24 (
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22:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)reply