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foolswisdom: In regards to
http://www.flockbrowser.com/ which calls itself "Flock Web Browser Community", I look forward to seeing them becoming that, but currenty I have not seen interaction with Flock Inc or the community. Do they include information on their site saying who they are? There are quite a few sites and blogs with more relevant Flock information, and much more community buy-in.
Some measuring stick is needed, site rank, longevity, or otherwise.
Where do sites like:
http://flocq DOT 100free DOT com/ (which is blocked by the spam filter)
EliasAlucard wrote: (It does not matter if it's highly ranked in search engines, it's clearly a site dedicated to Flock, and it provides good information about Flock. Definitely should have a link in its own right
Cardinal's Release
I just added a few lines that talk about Cardinal's release and its major features. Llyod,will you look at it and then edit it if I made any major errors.Thanks man
Killeroid 11:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Picture
The photo should be updated to show the newest version of Flock 0.7.0.16.2 or just a 0.7 release, as there is a great difference in appearance between the 0.5 and 0.7 releases.
Yeah and make it a picture on OS X too. So it's a pretty picture and not that butt ugly WINDBLOWS all the time Ugh.
Beta
Now that the Beta is out, can this page be updated, stating a stable release is available?
I took out the Flock.com after each one too. I mean it is displayed on the site but its not really a reference. But maybe it is? If you think its better the other way you can always change it back.--
Coolkid60200600:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)reply
It is not spam! I'll try to set it up like the firefox article though
[1] Hopefully this will clear up the confusion.
Mozilla or Flock Inc.?
Ok so theres a controversy over It being Mozilla or Flock Inc. I think it's Mozilla but I may be wrong. Or maybe a branch off? There isn't a page for Flock Inc. anyways. What do you think?
Read the article - it states that Flock is produced by Flock and NOT Mozilla, but both are open source, so a lot of the people making the products work on both.
151.188.16.5812:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)reply
There currently are only Win32, Linux x86-32, and Mac OS X 10.3 or later builds. Since Flock includes
CLucene, that is often the gating factor when attempting to port it to new platforms.
Littlematt (
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17:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Disputed: installer displayed user license may not reflect GPL
Included here in full, with important parts highlighted by me:
FLOCK BROWSER END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
The accompanying executable code version of the Flock browser and related documentation ("Product") is made available under the terms of this End-User Software License Agreement ("Agreement"). IF YOU CLICK "ACCEPT" OR INSTALL OR USE THE PRODUCT, YOU UNCONDITIONALLY CONSENT TO BE BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS HEREIN, DO NOT CLICK "ACCEPT" AND DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THIS PRODUCT. Source code for this Product is available for use, modification and distribution under open source licenses at www.flock.com. Nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted under such open source licenses.
Flock grants you a non-exclusive license to use the executable code version of the Product. Flock and its licensors shall retain all intellectual property rights in the Product, except for the rights expressly granted in this Agreement. You may not remove or alter any trademark, or logo (collectively, "Marks"), copyright or other proprietary notice on the Product. This license does not grant you any right to use Marks of Flock or its licensors. If you breach this Agreement, the above license and your right to use the Product will terminate immediately and without notice, but all other terms of this Agreement will survive termination and continue in effect. Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of the Product. Except as expressly and unambiguously permitted by this Agreement, you shall not, nor permit anyone else to, directly or indirectly: (i) copy, modify, or distribute the Product; or (ii) reverse engineer, disassemble, decompile or otherwise attempt to discover the source code or structure, sequence and organization of any portion of the Product that is not distributed in source code form (except to the extent applicable law prohibits such restrictions).
As a condition to your use of the Product, you represent, warrant and agree that you will not use the Product: (i) to infringe the intellectual property rights or proprietary rights, or rights of publicity or privacy, of any third party; (ii) to violate any applicable law, statute, ordinance or regulation; (iii) to disseminate information or materials in any form or format ("Content") that are harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, or otherwise objectionable under applicable laws or community standards. You, not Flock, remain solely responsible for all Content that you upload, post, e-mail, transmit, or otherwise disseminate using, or in connection with, the Product. You acknowledge that all Content that you access using the Product is at your own risk and you will be solely responsible for any damage to any party resulting therefrom. THIS PRODUCT IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WARRANTIES OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, MERCHANTABILITY AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW LIMITATIONS ON HOW LONG AN IMPLIED WARRANTY LASTS SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.
NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY, NEITHER FLOCK NOR ITS LICENSORS WILL BE LIABLE, UNDER ANY LEGAL OR EQUITABLE THEORY (WHETHER IN AN ACTION BASED IN CONTRACT, TORT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHERWISE), FOR (I) ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE PRODUCT OR OTHER SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS AGREEMENT (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, LOSS OF DATA AND COMPUTER MALFUNCTION), EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES, OR (II) ANY AMOUNT IN THE AGGREGATE IN EXCESS OF THE GREATER OF THE FEES PAID BY YOU UNDER THIS LICENSE, AND US$100. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, SO THE ABOVE LIMITATION AND EXCLUSION MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.
If the user or licensee of this Product is an agency, department, or other entity of any Government, the use, duplication, reproduction, release, modification, disclosure, or transfer of this Product, or any related documentation of any kind, including technical data, software, and manuals, is restricted by the terms of this Agreement. All other use is prohibited. No rights other than those provided in Agreement are conferred. This product was developed fully at private expense.
This Agreement contains the entire understanding between the parties with respect to the Product, and may only be amended in writing by authorized representatives of both parties. You may not assign this Agreement or any rights or obligations hereunder without Flock's prior written consent. You may not download, use or otherwise export the Product except in compliance with all applicable laws and regulations. This Agreement will be governed by the laws of California, excluding its conflict of law provisions. Any dispute under this Agreement shall be decided exclusively by state or federal courts in Santa Clara County, California, and the parties consent to such jurisdiction and venue. The United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods shall not apply. Failure to enforce any provision of this Agreement is not a waiver of future enforcement of that or any other provision.
In conclusion, it seems that not all of Flock is open source, but the article makes this claim. Furthermore, since according to my knowledge, only the LGPL permits inclusion of closed source components, it seems that the license of the open source portions is limited to the LGPL in the final released product.
82.71.48.15803:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Glad that you brought it up. I am not using any "open source" software that uses the phrase "Intellectual property." I am not standing on a soapbox but this thread shows that the neutrality disputed tag is appropriate for the article right now. --
Kushalt02:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)reply
What now?
I removed the information stating that Flock is GPL licensed. This article raises the question of what the license field in the template should reflect - licenses that the makers of the software think they are using, or only the ones that are factually legally compatible with the circumstances?
82.71.48.15805:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)reply
GPL is mentioned in source files
If you download the source code, you'll fin that a number of files from the /flock/mozilla/flock/ directory explicitly license themselves under the GPL v2, whereas others use the MPL 1.1. Can anyone explain how this is possible, given the viral nature of the GPL? --Tyr --
78.32.81.25 (
talk)
14:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)reply
MPL 1.1 files are derived from files originally created by the Mozilla project, such as the build system Makefiles, or Flock-original files specifically requested to be tri-licensed by Mozilla. Original Flock code is generally (with the exceptions of the trademarks of Flock and their partners, as well as the aforementioned contributions to the Mozilla project) licensed under the GPL. Saying things like "the viral nature of the GPL" is flamebait, and incorrect. Flock licenses its source code under the GPL (as it is specifically allowed to do via the Mozilla tri-license). The prebuilt binary you download is not, hence the EULA quoted above. It contains Flock's trademarks, and therefore can not be considered entirely open-source, just as Firefox was not considered entirely open-source by the Debian folks who then created Iceweasel.
Littlematt (
talk)
17:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Features
I understand that Flock is built on similar technology as Firefox, but that doesn't mean that the features section should be defined as a contrast with Firefox. I'm going to change it so that Firefox is excluded, you can bring up qualms here. I also scratched the final paragraph since it was blatant pov.
The freddinator (
talk)
18:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)reply
I think this still reads like an advertisement, even though some of Thinboy's issues have been resolved. There is no criticism. Personally when I tried to use the Flock browser some time ago, I found it much less stable than Firefox. --
Ezra Wax (
talk)
04:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I have added some drawbacks. I haven't sourced them, because it is a bit more work, so if I don't do it, I'd appreciate anybody else who does. If you wish to remove any of the drawbacks, please don't unless you think it likely that they cannot be sourced. --
Ezra Wax (
talk)
23:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)reply
What you posted were more opinions than criticisms. I've removed them as such. I'll try and find some time this week to find some sources of criticism that satisfy
WP:V, but what you added doesn't meet that policy. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite00:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Criticism or not, this article still sounds like a huge advertisement for Flock. Throwing in criticism from a commercial doesn't stop it from being a commercial.
69.121.234.23 (
talk)
03:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)reply
And yet, no one has been able to point out what makes it an advert. If folks could actually offer specifics, it would help. A vague "it's a commercial" really doesn't help us fix whatever the problem is. 11:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding
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HandThatFeeds (
talk •
contribs)
Well, for example, it lists a lot of details that belong to a press release and not to an encyclopedia, like a list of inversors of the previous company. The sections "company", "Recent funding" and "Reception" should be united on a "History" section, with this section explaining in prose how it was received. Awards should be only on the "Awards" section unless they had a relevant impact on the company, and this impact should be explained. --
Enric Naval (
talk)
13:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)reply
This is actually helpful. I agree, the investors and funding really don't have much place here. Reception & awards could be merged, along with criticisms, into a single section. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite14:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I realize the article may be in need of fixes against bias in favor of the browser, but I just thought that some of the references to the criticism were of quite subpar quality. The "source" for sluggish performance is for example a web forum post; I'm not sure that's a quality Wikipedia should look for. —
Northgrove08:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Sources
You guys - blogs are not sources. You can't say "Flock has been criticized for ..." and use a blog to support that claim. Either find a reliable source who you can directly ascribe the criticism to or take out the sentences.--
danielfolsom23:25, 2 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Yeah, there was a fight a while back about people saying the article was "biased" and read like an "advert," so we wound up with this poorly sourced Critcism section. I'm all for excising it until some reliable sources of criticism can be found. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite01:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)reply
(sigh) Please read the sections just above this one. What makes you think the article is "like a press release" and non-neutral? No one has really pointed out specifics we can fix. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite03:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't think the reception adequately covers the currently covers the current reception of flock as many of its users have become fed up with their lack of responding to future plans for the product and an increasing number of mostly ignored bug reports.
Removed Flock's alternative browser recommendations for two reasons. 1) the flock.com link is dead, so there's no citation for their recommendation. 2) even if it existed, it's a little too unencyclopedic / press release-ish to include their recommendations. It's like if a shampoo tells you to wash/rinse/repeat, do you include that in the shampoo's WP listing? I hate MS/IE as much as the next guy, but any Flock user is savvy enough to know to go with Firefox/Chrome without this nudge.--
Petzl (
talk)
22:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)reply
I agree that nothing has happened there, but you can't just post suspicions without citing a ref that shows that a reliable source is concerned about that as an issue. -
Ahunt (
talk)
14:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)reply
It looks like the domain has changed hands a couple of times since the browser was discontinued. The site is now at ip 209.242.30.198 and based on Wordpress, using a Google Analytics plugin with id UA-30907629-1. Not very professional.
http://www.ewhois.com/flock.com/ has it listed with id UA-342283 at ip 184.73.168.97. The browser's site was ip 70.33.217.70 ref.
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://flock.com. The info first changes 26 feb 2011, shortly after Flock was acquired. OR to be added to the article but worth noting here. I consider it unlikely that there is a browser behind this site. — Preceding
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24.89.139.58 (
talk)
13:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)reply
The link to flock.com goes to an entirely different company and concept, it's not an aggregate browser from what I can tell. Can someone confirm? p.s. I miss the Flock browser 21 April 2017
User:dawna67
It looks like all this speculation about Flock being re-started has come to zero. Right now the the second lead para details this, but given that it all came to naught I am proposing that all that text be removed as "non-notable". -
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