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Almost all of the recent edits on controversies could be considered
recentism. They refer to a recent or a current minor controversy and should be removed - Wikipedia is not a tabloid newspaper.
Hohenloh + 23:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Following on from the above, after making a number of edits to this article yesterday I have removed the bit about dispute between her husband and a plumber from the "controversies" section. At first I just moved the pieces about the two disputes on the page to the bottom of the article as it had too much prominence and looked like it was inserted by someone with a potential grievance with Healy Eames. I left the issue with the car tax and train ticket in because that relates to her but after I read the bit about the plumber it didn’t seem to belong in the article. I did include the following edit summary when I made the original edit "actually this is a pretty trivial matter and relates to her husband not her. More an attempt at mud raking than pertinent information with regards the individual" but I think
User:Guliolopez may have missed it when they were tidying the article up. It seems a pretty trivial matter to have in an article and from reading the article the dispute was actually between her husband and the plumber and not her. Anyway, that was my reasoning. I'm not wedded to the removal but just don’t think it should be in the article as its not relevant.--
Wonkey Donkey (
talk)
12:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)reply
As per the discussion on
my talk page, I did overlook an edit-summ along the line. Apologies. In any event, while we should be careful about giving
undue weight to certain events or coverage, the
BLP guidelines suggest that content should be neutral and balanced. Notwithstanding that this article might have been subject to potentially
COI-SELF or
COI-PR edits, given that some of the topics had significant coverage at the time, I do think that the article reads with more balance/context with a summary mention in place. While we should (as Hohenloh suggests) be careful about
recentism, if we think the separate "controversy" section is problematic under WP:UNDUE or WP:TRIVIA guidelines, then perhaps we should
address as suggested and merge any remaining summary with the article body. Happy to hear thoughts or have a CON building discussion on that.
Guliolopez (
talk)
18:05, 12 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I kind of agree with
User:Alison on the points she made on your talk page. I also agree with you, the article looks like it has been subject to
COI-SELF and/or
COI-PR but on the flip side it looks like it has also been used by someone or some people with a gripe against her, such as the edits throughout August 2012 with single purpose accounts like
User:Boombastic123 adding solely negative comments about her. I hope my edits have added some well needed balance to the article.
I haven’t a problem with a "controversy" section per se in the article and it may be relevant to have the issue with the car tax and train fare in the article (I'm not 100% convinced it is, but anyway) but I'm really not sure that a small court case that involved her husband and a plumber over an outstanding bill is suitable for inclusion. That comes across as a bit of an attempt at a character assassination.--
Wonkey Donkey (
talk)
13:06, 16 March 2015 (UTC)reply
If there are reliable referenced sources attesting to the events, then I think it fair to say that it belongs here in the article. However, at the same time it is also very important to remain NPOV and to avoid this article simply becoming a list of controversial incidents. Weighing up this balance is something that has faced almost every article on a politician here at Wikipedia.
Midnightblueowl (
talk)
21:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC)reply
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