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This season is Fenway's 95th birthday; are the Red Sox doing anything special this season to celebrate it (like a special commerative logo) or are they saving all that hoopla for its centennial in 2012?
I do not know why the last sentence that keeps getting deleted by various people is put back (bold is the disputed phrasing):
In similar fashion, Mark Bellhorn hit what proved to be the game-winning homer in Game 1 of the 2004 World Series off that pole's (miked) screen, and TV announcer Tim McCarver said the resulting twang was "the worst sound I ever heard."
First, the pole was miked for the TV audience, it is not piped into the stadium to my knowlege and typically is not miked during the season. Second, the sound was extraordinary only at the time people were watching the game, I highly doubt that you could find many people who even remember the sound especially of Red Sox fans. Thirdly, I did hear the sound and I don't think that the sound was very special. Fourth, just because some TV announcer said that its the worst sound he's heard (which I highly doubt) does not hold water for being an important feature/event of Fenway Park. Assawyer 09:44, October 26, 2005 (UTC)
Thus, the pole is named in memory of an important Red Sox who was involved in a memorable TV and photographic moment when the game was tied and the Red Sox needed to win the game to send it to Game 7. I hope that clears things up for you. Assawyer 18:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know which one it actually is, if either? Also, I have to wonder about how Pesky and Fisk feel about the public constantly talking about their "poles". Seems kind of crude, if you ask me. d:) Wahkeenah 14:41, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
User:Sean 86 just posted a picture showing the view from the top of the Green Monster. It's interesting in its own way, but I think the huge white tarp over the infield is a little bit jarring. I have a very similar picture, here, that is considerably less sharp but shows a bit more of the stadium and shows the infield. At that size I think the sharp focus is negligible, but I didn't think it would be right to replace his pic with my pic on my own, so I thought I would leave it to the community to decide. Kafziel 01:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC) By the way, I do think Sean86's picture and a section about dealing with rain would be a good addition to the baseball article.
I thought this distance was different for Fenway. User:192.156.110.34 13:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
1.07 The pitcher’s plate shall be a rectangular slab of whitened rubber, 24 inches by 6 inches. It shall be set in the ground as shown in Diagrams 1 and 2, so that the distance between the pitcher’s plate and home base (the rear point of home plate) shall be 60 feet, 6 inches.
-- Assawyer 00:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
As a Fenway Frequenter, I know no one calls them the "Budweiser" Seats. They are called "Right Field Roof" on the tickets, on the website and by the fans.
I've always heard that Boucher, a construction engineer from Albany, switched allegiance from the Yankees to the Red Sox after Williams hit him in the head? Can this be verified?
That is part of a story that is told to people while on the fenway park tour when they explain the lone red seat in the bleachers so i am not sure how much of the story is true if at all
As a former tour guide at Fenway, I have to agree with the previous statement. The Boucher story would vary slightly from tour guide to tour guide, but would always end with the same punchline: the next day, the Boston Globe ran the headline, "BULL'S EYE! WILLIAMS KNOCKS SENSE INTO YANKEES FAN!" It always got a laugh, but I've never gone to the library to verify this headline, and don't really want to. It's a fun joke, but I'm not willing to give it more credence than that. I knew I was straddling a line between fact and fiction, but I justified that by understanding I was a tour guide, not a journalist. Jfarr11 00:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi... does anyone know if they allow you to bring a camera into Fenway? I've got an 8mpx camera, and I'll be going there soon, and, if I can, will take pictures and upload them here. But I don't want to waste time having to bring it back to the hotel and then miss the 1st inning... aido2002 10:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
As I said I would in the previous post, I went to Fenway and got losts of great photos... the best of which I uploaded to Flickr, www.flickr.com/photos/aido2002, with a CC Artibution-Share Alike liscense. Feel free to look at hem, upload those I haven't, but be sure to atribute me. :) aido2002 06:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I just added a reference to support the nickname of "America's Most Beloved Ballpark", since a {{fact}} tag was added to it recently. I'm not sure the reference is really necessary, since a bit of Google searching turns up little to no references to the phrase that don't refer to Fenway Park. If anyone can find anything a bit more official than the one I listed, feel free - the phrase is used multiple times on the Red Sox official site, but it's not really an official statement of "this is the nickname of the park" anywhere. Seems good enough to me, though. — Krellis 00:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The template about the New York Times company and its corporate information at the bottom is a little weird. (There is no reference in the text of the article that the Times Co. owns part of the park or the Red Sox.) Even weirder is that another asset of the the Times Company listed is "Metro Boston" (linking to a geography article about greater Boston and its suburbs.) I speculate that it actually means the Boston edition of the "Metro" newspaper. Or perhaps it is all vandalism. 18.56.0.43 06:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I have removed the trivia tag from the "Fenway Park in Films" section. This section is not trivia; it is merely a list of the movies and television shows the park has featured in. In truth, there really is no way to mix in these facts throughout the article as the tag asks. ToddC4176 17:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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In the Seating Capacity Section, the following appears: "There have been proposals to increase the seating capacity to as much as 45,000 through the expansion of the upper decks, while others (notably former team owners, the JRY Trust) have called for razing the historic ballpark entirely and building a similar, but larger and more modern, scalable facility nearby. Any such action would likely be met by strong local opposition and may be deemed illegal." Can someone give me some indication of why this would be illegal? I can't see how this is in here without an explanation or reference. -- ZoQuo 20:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I did not want to make any further changes or additions to the present Fenway Park page without first attempting to discuss it with you.
I am somewhat new to Wikipedia.
Please leave a message here or perhaps we can discuss it via email.
Thanks, Relax777 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Relax777 ( talk • contribs) 23:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the response to my inquiry. In the short section that I originally added entitled "What the Experts Say", I included the reference to the source, which is Will's book Men at Work, p. 175. I included it in parentheses; I have not yet figured out how to put in footnotes. Again, I will not change anything on the page until I get it okayed with someone. Also, I open to it being edited. Please let me know about this. Thanks, Relax777.
B-Ball Bugs- Thank you for your response and assistance. The Fenway Park page is very informative. From Relax —Preceding unsigned comment added by Relax777 ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
In the Info Box it says on top "The Fens". This a nickname for the area surrounding the Muddy River and the wetlands that have been filled in. I have never heard Fenway described as "The Fens". The other line "America's Most Beloved Ballpark" is just recent cheesy marketing but I guess the sign is too big to go unnoticed. MBCF 12:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it's not actually *in* the stadium... but neither were those Ted Williams homers. :-) -- Baylink 04:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Congrats Sox on the 2007 championship. Can someone provide a definitive ruling on the number of times Fenway has hosted the WS? I count nine (8 featuring the Sox and 1 featuring the Braves). From what I've been able to find, the 2 other Sox WS appearances (1915, 1916) were played at Braves Field, due to seating capacity issues.
Still, the number keeps getting changed in the entry from nine to 10. Thanks. Mscroggins 18:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
An IP address slipped a 10 in there on 2/27/08. [3] Thanks to another IP address today for fixing it. d:) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 07:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Please know that Fenway Park and the Boston Red Sox are owned by New England Sports Ventures (NESV). NESV owns the ballpark and the team as well as Fenway Sports Group (FSG) and 80% of New England Sports Network (NESN). Ownership was incorrectly listed as FSG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.13.139.155 ( talk) 05:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The cited source makes no such claim, and your comparing measurements is not only "analysis", which is against wikipedia rules, but is also questionable analysis on its face, as the real analysis would be the total square footage of the playing field, which is not discussed in the citation at all. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I just added a bit about the odd shape of thw whole outfield in Fenway, but an overhead shot or diagram would show the distortions much better than words. It really looks like someone chopped off most of left field and plopped it down between center and right field. Ortolan88 ( talk) 15:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC) PS -- It would be perfectly ridiculous to make a new park with those horrid dimensions, no matter how used we've gotten to it. O88
Some busybody just removed my description of the distorted Fenway outfield as "original research". Give me a break. Anyone who knows anything can easily see that the Fenway outfield is screwed, that the left field is half gone while right field and right center are vast. I don't engage in disputes in Wikipedia any more -- personally unpleasant to me -- but this deletion is simply wrong. Ortolan88 ( talk) 16:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Certainly there should be some discussion about the left field wall, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.218.232 ( talk) 20:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I added a section to the Green Monster page on the scoreboard, as I was looking for information on that and it is not mentioned in the wikipedia page. Also added a link to it on the Fenway page. I think the link and scoreboard sentences still need some clean up but I did not want to change the original too much. Clapre ( talk) 13:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I tagged the article for a neutrality check as there seemed to be some editorialisation in various places as terms like "good" and "fair" (and not only in terms like "fair ball") were being used. An objective article doesn't need judgment terms unless it can be documented that the team, or similar official body, has/had judged it so. 147.70.242.40 ( talk) 21:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
On Pardon the Interruption on Friday, November 7, Bob Ryan indicated that the Red Sox were going to expand the capacity by 560 seats. Anyone have more info on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.89 ( talk) 04:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Here is a great photo of the park in its first year or so. Since it was taken before 1923 it can be used here. If you like, go for it :) Kingturtle ( talk) 00:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
The section called "non-sporting events" needs to be reviewed and rewritten, otherwise it simply becomes a list of every artist the team decides to invite each summer. The re-introduction of concerts in 2003 with Springsteen is somewhat notable then after that it becomes trivia. I am hoping someone else who agrees with me will take a look at this and respond because lately unsourced statements about McCartney keep popping up. Having the section trimmed to Springsteen and maybe the Rolling Stones because of the field damage should seem less inviting to casual editors who want to add the latest info about Band X coming to town in the future. Right now it is not very encyclopedic and a bit of a mess. Sswonk ( talk) 21:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Why are there two different capacities for night games versus day games? Can anyone explain this to me? Also, if an explanation does not already exist in the article could we put one in? Bmanphilly ( talk) 19:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it's inappropriate to refer to Dodger Stadium as a classic ballpark. Wrigley and Fenway, for sure. But Dodger Stadium was built without support pillars, it's outfield distances are symmetrical and it's surrounded by acres of parking lots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.178.39 ( talk) 00:10, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the statement as follows: "it has been the oldest venue used by a professional sports team in the United States since the 1991 demolition of Comiskey Park in Chicago."
This is a distinction Fenway shared with Tiger Stadium (earlier Navin Field and Briggs Stadium) from 1991 until 1999 when the Detroit Tigers played their final game in Tiger Stadium. Both Fenway Park and Navin Field opened for play on April 20, 1912. Comment as written gives appearance that Fenway Park held this has held this honor alone since 1991. Not sure if this should be noted, but technically between 1991 and 1999 Fenway was one of the two oldest venues used by a professional sports team in the United States. -- Chrismykrantz ( talk) 01:28, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
I restored a bit of this section and added some citations. I hope to do some more over the next few weeks, while avoiding some of the issues that were plaguing it earlier. -- Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!) 09:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
This edit added a long list of seating capacities over the years. However, it seems unusual that the capacity would change from year to year by such minor amounts. Can someone with access to a definitive source, such as the team's media guides, verify this information? isaacl ( talk) 16:20, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have any citations that the nickname specified in this this edit, "America's Most Beloved Ballpark", is actually a nickname and not just a slogan used by the Red Sox? The nickname field in the infobox, as I understand it, is for actual nicknames that are generally used, and not marketing terms. isaacl ( talk) 04:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Doing some research, there are a few instances of balls hitting the ladder that lead to inside-the-park home runs. There is no such thing as a ground rule triple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.248.76 ( talk) 22:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that in the body of the article are two very similar images, this and this, but they don't appear near each other. That strikes me as odd. What might be more useful is if they were juxtaposed vertically, to show the modifications c. 2008(?) that added the most recent grandstand seating on the second level. -- Jprg1966 (talk) 06:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Is there a source providing information about Fenway Park's fine organ that could be added to this article? The article about John Kiley, Fenway Park organist 1953–1989, states, "The organ that Kiley played at Fenway Park was a Hammond X-66", but surely that's no longer the case? JGHowes talk 13:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone know how high the outfield fences are in Fenway Park, and if so, can someone post those figures on the page?
Yugiohfan2010 ( talk) 03:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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There's very little outside what's already covered here in the Fenway Park article that necessitates a spin-off article. Suggest whatever is unique and truly notable is simply merged into the main article. The Rambling Man ( talk) 23:41, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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"Ground rules:
Foul poles are outside the field of play."
If this is true how could Fisk's & Bellhorn's home runs be fair? Normally, foul poles are inside fair territory and therefore a ball that hits them is fair. Is Fenway different?
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"Fenway has hosted many Gaelic games over the years. On June 6, 1937, All-Ireland Football Champions from County Mayo defeated the Massachusetts team, 17 to 8, and on November 8, 1954, the All-Ireland Hurling champions County Cork beat an American line-up, 37 to 28. In more recent times Fenway Park has played host to the Fenway Hurling Classic. In the first iteration in 2015, Galway beat Dublin 50 to 47 in a hard fought match with 27,776 in attendance. In the 2017 edition of the event, a three match tournament was held. In the first semi-final, a rematch between reigning All-Ireland Champions Galway and Dublin played out in a similar fashion the game held two years prior as Galway won again, 55 to 37. In the second semi-final, Clare played Tipperary in a very close contest with Clare winning 50 to 45. In the final match of the tournament, Galway and Clare faced off for the Players Champions Cup. [1] Clare ran away with the title, winning the Fenway Hurling Classic final with a final score of 50 to 33." - Already in section — Preceding unsigned comment added by DylanFaraci98 ( talk • contribs) 01:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
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The Red Sox and the city of Boston failed to reach an agreement on building the new stadium and the team was put up for sale.- this sentence could not be implemented because it was not referenced.
They announced that the team would stay at Fenway Park indefinitely. They renovated the ballpark by incorporating Jersey Street into Fenway Park. They added seats on top of the Green Monster wall and the right field roof.- this sentence could not be implemented because it is not clear whom "they" are.
Congestion was lessened inside the park by relocating turnstiles to incorporate Jersey Street to be an "inside the park" street, converted a batting cage into a restaurant and bar, and moved dumpsters and television trucks to make space for a food court, picnic area, wider concourses, and new restrooms.- this sentence could not be implemented because it was not referenced.
The right field roof was reinforced in 2004 and specialty seating and a bar were constructed to create a social space overlooking the field.- this sentence could not be added because it's not clear where this text is to be placed in the article.
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