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About two years ago, DJK brought up this point, which seems to have gone ignored: "Does anyone else think that the name of this article should simply be changed to something along the lines of "Fate (franchise), since it includes not only Fate/Stay Night, but Fate/Zero, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, Fate/Prototype, Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC, Fate/Extella, Fate/Grand Order - First Order, Fate/Extra: Last Encore, as well as probably several others."
Seeing how the original Fate/stay night page is attempting to list everything, despite how massive & mainstream the franchise has become now - not just in Japan, but globally - this is starting to get a bit ridiculous. Even the ones with only the loosest connection to this game, like Fate/Apocrypha & Fate/Grand Order, are being listed here. We now have audiences understanding "Fate/" as its own franchise without ever having heard of F/SN. The more those get expanded on, adapted into anime, and picked up by mainstream media like Netflix, and treated as their own entities, the more bizarre it'll get to keep track of it all here.
By now, can we all agree that creating a Fate (franchise) page to contain the list is a must? In my opinion, it would simplify things both for readers and editors. Knowing how often the Marvel and Fate franchises get compared, the fact that the
MCU has its own page just shows we could make this a lot more accessible to readers.
I believe we've reached the point where this is justified. Of course, I am a new Wikipedian, so do let me know if there's a procedure I'm missing here! :)
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ManaDragon (
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04:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)reply
If there is enough content, I don't see why not. However, I would recommend using materials from
the Russian wikipedia. I mean, I this visual novel seems to be lacking sources when compared to the Russian wikipedia.
Tintor2 (
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20:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)reply
It is by definition a franchise at this point. It is not just the visual novels, it is also the adaptations, original works/spinoffs, as well as the merchandising. --
Izno (
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15:45, 21 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Oh guys... Yup, Fate/ is series or franchise — both terms are correct. Sadly but I've never ever seen in appropriative reliable sourses the significant coverage of ″Fate/ franchise″ term (
WP:GNG). In Russian Wikipedia if created article with such topic would be deleted as an original research with not shown notability. To create
Fate (franchise) article first of all we need to find survey sources from
WP:A&M/I list. Of course fan-made survey articles do exist, but it's bad for Wikipedia to rely on such sources.
Dantiras (
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20:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)reply
This novel is top raited in all japanese VN raitings and is mentioned in some anime/other game reviews and even scientific works. More correct to say this about Kagetsu Tohya.
Dantiras (
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19:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Those novel ratings mostly have the same notability as those fan sites. As an alternative, we could restructure Type-moon article, if you think notability will be a problem for Fate/.
Smeagol 17 (
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06:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)reply
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
Shouldn't that imply that we have to create a main Fate article to focus on the franchise and leave this to focus on the visual novel? Also, a bit off topic, but we have tables for the songs but I don't think are sourced.
Tintor2 (
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17:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply