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Yeah, so in the beginning of the article, it says "The far side of the Moon is the lunar hemisphere that is permanently turned away from the Earth." I just wanted to mention that technically, it's not permanent. "The moon is moving away from Earth at a speed of about 1 1/2 inches (3.8 centimeters) per year." ref Because of the conservation of angular momentum, this means that rotation and the revolution of the moon must slow down. So, technically, the same side of the moon didn't used to always face us, and it won't always. Also, the rotation of the earth, and because of that, the revolution of the earth, slows down at a VERY slow rate. To be accurate, I think we should change the article to say "that is currently always turned away from the Earth." However, because the source costs money, http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/moon_worldbook.html here is a free look at it, from NASA's website! ObiBinks ( talk) 19:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I find this peculiar, anyone care to explain? This is one of the main conspiracy head-ups, what is hiding back there?
Are there any objections to removing the following text:
"It is similar to the use of the expression "darkest continent", which portrayed the lack of knowledge concerning the conditions in the interior of the African continent by most of Europe in the 19th century."
Strictly speaking, you can make an argument that it is related to the rest of the paragraph. However, I do not think this passage enhances the quality of the article. Hiberniantears 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the page because I almost never hear it referred to as just "far side" without "of the moon" appended on first reference, so I thought it would make more sense to use a name that doesn't need an extra disambiguator. Night Gyr 11:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
the dark side of the moon and the far side of the moon are not the same thing. the far side is the side facing away from earth. however, during a new moon, the dark side is the side facing earth. during a half moon, you can see half of the dark side of the moon. why then does "dark side of the moon" redirect here? 68.225.64.137 17:54, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Bertrand Russell. Shall Wikipedia support or give equal time to the position held by millions of people that the evening of 12/31/1999 was the "eve of the millenium"? Earrach ( talk) 02:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Likewise then even if the Tupac "hologram" stage effect had absolutely nothing to do with holography we are all to accept the stage trick actually used ("pepper box") henceforth as a "hologram" simply because the media has made the public misidentify the technology. Ignorance steadily perpetuated in the media shall continue to trump the truth? Looking around here, I suppose we have to surrender. Earrach ( talk) 21:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I've heard no one with a sense of what they're talking about refer to the far side as the "dark side" aside from busting the old myth that one side of the moon is always dark. In fact, I've heard far more people shoot down the "dark side" claim than people actually referring to the far side as the "dark" side. Nowhere else, besides Wikipedia, can I find a statement saying the equivalent of "the far side of the moon can also be called the dark side." The closest I can find from modern sources that could be considered reliable are statements such as "there's not actually a dark side of the moon -- the far side just never faces the Earth." Others in the other "dark side" section down below seem to have had slightly better luck, but it's still hardly enough to justify using "dark side" as a synonym for "far side." Not saying it shouldn't be mentioned, but the consensus everywhere but here evidently is that the dark side is not the same as the far side. ALK ( Talk) 05:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't get how "dark side of the moon" being a common name for the far side is a contentious issue. It's not previous, or obsolete, it's present day and common and I would imagine quite a few people who are looking for this article came here via the google search "dark side of the moon space". Saying it's "incorrect" is like saying the name "Michael" is incorrect (unless it's applied to someone who truly is like god), or the "Black Sea" is wrong because it's more of a dark blue, it's a name for it, not a technical description. Can I mention a few sources for this? [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], that was like five minutes of looking, all of these articles refer to the far side as the dark side either explicitly or interchangeably. I'm not a regular editor so maybe there is something wrong about my sources or something, am I missing something here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.204.41 ( talk) 03:26, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Should "Dark Side Of The Moon" really redirect here? I'm sure that most people are looking for the Pink Floyd album... Grymsqueaker 16:53, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this sentence belongs here:
While the farside of the Moon might be "partially shielded" from the solar wind, I doubt if this is significant. I would guess this might give rise to a difference of only 5%. In all likelihood, local geologic conditions and regolith composition is more important than this effect. Lunokhod 19:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Puhleeeze. More like the wind reduction your face would be afforded by a golf ball 12 feet directly upwind of you. And, even then we would only come inline for a day or two only on the very occasional months producing solar eclipses. SEE: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Earth-Moon.png Earrach ( talk) 02:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
I think the possibility of there being an alien base on the far side of the moon should be briefly mentioned, to most people it probably sounds crazy but I am open minded and I'm sure alot of Wikipedia readers are as well. I have read on websites and heard from documentaries that when the astronauts on the Apollo 11 mission went around the moon to the far side where they lost radio communication they saw a massive dome shaped building and what appeared to be a destroyed city. However I think any evidence I can find wouldn't be considered creditible so such a section may not be plausible. What do you guys think? Black death 00:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
help, all I can connect, is Mare Moscow CorvetteZ51 14:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
What about adding information (even calling it skeptical) about subjects like this: http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html; also discussed here. Timneu22 23:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The article currently says that "the dark side of the moon" is incorrect. I was pretty sure that it is not incorrect, the meaning of dark being metaphor for "unknown" or "unseen". I searched the Oxford English Dictionary for clarification and, sure enough, that is a meaning of "dark" although they do not have an entry for "dark side of the moon" itself. Disappointed by the lack of detail, I e-mailed the OED:
They told me that my explanation of the expression was correct - although I don’t suppose that is a definitive answer.
I searched through Google books and I found several examples prior to 1850 that used "dark side" in the metaphorical sense. This example from 1855 makes this usage clear:
I had no difficulty in finding examples of a similar date with "dark side" meaning the shaded side.
Gaius Cornelius ( talk) 17:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Brian Cox (physicist) used the expression as meaning the unseen side of the moon in his Wonders of the Universe series. Gaius Cornelius ( talk) 17:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
"We've known for awhile that the Compton-Belkovich had an unusually high thorium content," Glotch said. "Now we can positively say that that thorium is related to these silicic volcano materials." I made a mention on the talk:Geology of the Moon#Volcanism but I thought I'd flag it here too.
The section on the potential of the far side of the moon serving as a location for radio telescopes has a paragraph which discusses several problems which would need to be considered or overcome:
It seems that another consideration would be the fact that the far side is also likelier to be subject to impactors coming from outer space, as noted in the Differences section. Is this not really a big concern? Perhaps there are not really enough impactors left out there now for this to be a problem worth considering? Or is this a detail which has been overlooked in this paragraph and perhaps should be added in (and is anyone aware of a proper reference noting this concern)? Tenmiles ( talk) 01:04, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
What are the names of important features on the far side? I seem to recall that some author (Asamov?) proposed some sort of naming convention and it was actually adopted. Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 09:27, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
In the Exploration section, there is the following paragraph:
The far side was first seen directly by human eyes during the Apollo 8 mission in 1968. Astronaut William Anders described the view:
No quote follows. --anon. 71.183.139.60 ( talk) 00:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
In the section Alleged UFO sightings and conspiracies, it says NASA "in 2006 announced plans for manned missions to the far side of the Moon." I believe those plans were since shelved so this bit of info should be deleted. --anon. 71.183.139.60 ( talk) 00:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
This is supposed to be an article about the the far-hemisphere of the Moon's surface. The relevance of UFO lore to this topic is no more relevant here than placing a section on UFO sightings in a Wikipedia article about Chicago because UFOs had been reported over the city on occasions x, y, and z. This article has been taken over by UFO hobbyists with an inadequate understanding of the precepts of Wikipedia. I am not promoting "censorship", simply the application of an appropriate degree of editing where it is merited. Earrach ( talk) 01:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Schmitt was THE last to step ONTO the Moon. Cernan as Commander was first out.
Schmitt was second last to step OFF of the Moon. Cernan was last one.
Nitpick, yes. :-)
142.68.159.95 ( talk) 23:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Like this page, helped me understand my science homework, but maybe it should be under dark side of the moon cuz more people call it that ,so they wont have to redirect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.138.79 ( talk) 12:29, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Actually, it was. A few, if not most or all, of the Apollo missions that landed on earth landed on the Far Side. So there have been sightings from the ground!
Unless, of course, you mean from the earth's ground.
To know why I said this, read introductory paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.252.223.4 ( talk) 18:41, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I am unable to find a single common point of reference between the Apollo 16 photo of the far side of the Moon and the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) detail view. The two photos don't even look like the same celestial body. I tried different rotations to see if one photo might be turned on its side or upside-down. I mirror flipped the images. I assumed the the LRO image might be distorted because it is likely showing a full 180 degree projection of the sphere. I tried assuming the Apollo 16 photo might be showing only a very narrow angle of arc because the photo was taken so close to the Moon; therefore, it's image might show a much smaller area compared the the LRO photo. I tried to imagine how the different light angles might distort crater shadows creating very different contrasts to the craters. I thought that maybe the Apollo 16 photo might have more overlap between the near side and the far side. Nothing has helped. I can't find a single common crater. I can't say if these photos are even of the same object... Can anyone identify a few common reference points or help get me oriented? I'm hoping it's one of those things where once I see the common points that it will suddenly pop out at me and seem obvious, or at least eliminate my doubts that these photos show the same side of the same celestial body. NoahSpurrier ( talk) 00:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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is there oxygen in the moon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.35.45.21 ( talk) 22:14, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
I think the existing subsection needs citations in following places:
Geologist-astronaut Harrison Schmitt, who became the last to step onto the Moon, had aggressively lobbied for his landing site to be on the far side of the Moon, targeting the lava-filled crater Tsiolkovskiy.[citation needed] Schmitt's ambitious proposal included a special communications satellite based on the existing TIROS satellites to be launched into a Farquhar–Lissajous halo orbit around the L2 point so as to maintain line-of-sight contact with the astronauts during their powered descent and lunar surface operations.[citation needed] NASA administrators rejected these plans on the grounds of added risk and lack of funding.[citation needed]
I don't have the skills yet to put this into the article itself. I will try to look for the sources for the above statements and put them in, but I would like help finding and editing it. WPatrickW ( talk) 00:03, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I have found a possible source: Use of TIROS satellites (spelled Tyros in the source) [1] WPatrickW ( talk) 00:26, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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I added a link by Hop David that calculated the near side receives 34X more illumination than the Earth receives under a full Moon thus demonstrating a grain of literal truth to the "dark side" appellation. However, I got "An automated filter ... self-published sources rarely meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources" error, that I overrode. Rest assured that Hop has well-deserved reputation for providing reliable calculations within the space science community. Warren Platts ( talk) 15:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
The article states that all 24 astronauts aboard “Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 through 17” have seen the far side of the Moon. As there were three astronauts on each Apollo mission, this cannot be correct. Should this not be corrected to exclude Apollo 13 because the three astronauts aboard Apollo 13 were returned to Earth before their mission could be completed? That would indeed take the total number of astronauts (on 8 missions) who had seen the far side of the Moon to 24. If the Apollo 13 astronauts did also see the far side then that must take the total to 27. 2A00:23CC:D214:101:2486:6D74:43EA:D6B7 ( talk) 00:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Why is there nothing about the temperature/climate range of the far side of the moon? Feels like an important detail to me. Electricmaster ( talk) 06:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)