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I've been trying to add a fair use image of González-Torres. It has been removed a number of times, most recently with the reasoning that he did not approve of having images of himself reproduced during his lifetime. I could not find a source confirming that that was how he felt, but wonder whether that is a legitimate rationale to exclude an image of him anyhow, since Wikipedia is not censored. Gobōnobo + c 15:33, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi,
I'm considering adding a couple sentences to the introduction portion of the "Work" section regarding Ross Laycock's influence on Gonzalez-Torres's work. It's only mentioned briefly, but I think Laycock and his eventual death played a significant role in inspiring Gonzalez-Torres's work. My proposed text is below:
"Ross Laycock is also thought to have inspired many of Gonzalez-Torres's other works, including "Untitled" (Placebo) (1991) and "Untitled" (1991). With Laycock's death in 1991, Gonzalez-Torres created works that could help him cope with the loss of his partner. These pieces often involve installments that slowly disappear or expire over time, a metaphor for Laycock's passing due to AIDS-related illnesses."
My references are as follows:
"Collections Online: Felix Gonzalez-Torres". www.guggenheim.org. The Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation. Retrieved 2017-10-20. ( https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/felix-gonzalez-torres)
"Felix Gonzalez-Torres". SFMOMA. Retrieved 2017-10-20. ( https://www.sfmoma.org/artist/Felix_Gonzalez-Torres)
Storr, Robert (January 1995). "Félix González-Torres: Etre un Espion". ArtPress. pp. 24–32. (This is already included in the "References" section)
Mtong14 (
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18:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
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Mtong14:
Hi,
I've added the following text to the "Work" section, along with relevant references:
"Ross Laycock is also thought to have inspired many of Gonzalez-Torres's other works, including "Untitled" (Perfect Lovers) (1991) and "Untitled" (Placebo) (1991). For instance, in "Untitled" (Perfect Lovers) (1991), the two clocks are suggestive of the relationship between the two and their time spent together. With Laycock's death in 1991, Gonzalez-Torres created works that could help him cope with the loss of his partner. These pieces, such as "Untitled" (Placebo) (1991), often involve installments that slowly disappear or expire over time — a metaphor for Laycock's passing due to AIDS-related illnesses."
As stated above in my 20-Oct-2017 post, I believe that Ross Laycock's influence on FGT and his work is important to include in this article. This is currently not mentioned in enough detail, therefore the added text is meant to better capture this influence. Laycock is mentioned by name in a few interviews with FGT and I feel that this further supports the impact that Laycock had on FGT's work. I chose a couple of examples ("Untitled" (Perfect Lovers) (1991) and "Untitled" (Placebo) (1991)) that I think best represent Laycock's influence in FGT's pieces.
Any concerns or comments are appreciated.
Thanks, Mtong14 ( talk) 23:40, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Tommietu, I think that the phrase "The most important message behind this" in your addition to the article is a bit extreme. Using milder language, such as "Another important message...", may help it seem less biased or opinionated.
Thanks, Mtong14 ( talk) 23:50, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
thanks for the input sorry as this is really my first time editing an article for school ( Tommietu ( talk) 05:29, 30 October 2017 (UTC))
I added to Félix González-Torres 'work' with his art piece United (Portarit of ross in L.A.) to add on more about hiv/aids
His piece "Untitled (Portrait of Ross in L.A.)" for example, illustrates not one, but combined moments that represent the history of the queer community. This may portray, the dissolution of the gay community that was diagnosed with HIV/Aids. As a person eats the candy and throws it away, the pile decreases in size, which represents how society ignored the existence of this epidemic, which then led to deaths of many gay people.
source: Queer Art : A Freak Theory by Renate Lorenz (page 140)
( Tommietu ( talk) 04:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC))
1).Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you?
- All of the information and corrections that @Mtong14 made contributed to the relevant topic. A relevant addition that kept the flow of the article without distracting me from the overall idea.
2).Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?
- The additions added were neutral they did not try to persuade the reader to feel a certain way about the artist particular work.
3).Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented?
- I believe that most view points are equally represented. With some extra emphasis on his work since he is an artist and that is what he is known for.
4).Check the citations. Do the links work? Does the source support the claims in the article?
- The citations are from a creditable source and they all seem to work.
5).Is each fact supported by an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted?
- The facts are supported by the references. He mentions his art work its meaning and supports it with creditable sources from organizations and a thesis statement.
6).Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that should be added?
- The information not out of date. You can always have extra additions to the article, in particular additions to his work and their meaning. Such as the "Untitled" (Go-GO Dancing platform) 1991.
Ronyaguilar ( talk) 20:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
I previously modified the first sentence of the article by removing the word "gay" from the following sentence: "Felix Gonzalez-Torres (November 26, 1957 – January 9, 1996) was a Cuban-born American gay visual artist". Less than two hours after I removed the word "gay", my edit was deleted.
My reason for the edit was that I find it restrictive to define his artwork by his sexuality. Are all the gay artists on this page described as "gay" artists? Having clicked on a few, I can't actually see any, so why should FGT be described as such? Equally, should Basquiat be described as a "black" artist? For example, looking at the Wikipedia entry to Barkley L. Hendricks, the fact that he was black is clear from the first sentence, but it is in the context of his art; he isn't just described as " a black artist".
So rather than start a battle of wills and undo the undoer, I thought I would ask the editors of this page how relevant that FGT be described as a "gay visual artist" is. Missfroguk ( talk) 11:50, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks to :@ Bus stop: and Icarus of old for the discussion. I have removed the word "gay" from the lead sentence, but added "Throughout his career, Gonzalez-Torres’s involvement in social and political causes as an openly gay man fueled his interest in the overlap of private and public life" as a second sentence. I find it is now a more complete description of how his sexuality influenced his art and more in tune with how he produced his art "Gonzalez-Torres explained how he resisted the label of "gay art" during a period of increased censorship and furor over the NEA funding for Robert Mapplethorpe: "Two clocks side by side are much more threatening to the powers that be than an image of two guys sucking each other's dicks, because they cannot use me as a rallying point in their battle to erase meaning. It is going to be very difficult for members of Congress to tell their constituents that money is being expended for the promotion of homosexual art when all they have to show are two plugs side by side, or two mirrors side by side..." ( http://www.theartstory.org/artist-gonzalez-torres-felix-artworks.htm)
As to the note discussed above, it is now a full citation in the text under the "Work" section. Missfroguk ( talk) 17:06, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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While checking out some of the sources I couldn't help but notice that the early life section of this article is a direct quote from the exhibition description found in citation number one. I believe this violates some part of the wikipedia codes of conduct. This should likely be fixed, have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.36.161 ( talk) 04:50, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
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Just a heads up that I plan to do some restructuring of this article in the coming weeks. Several rounds of edits over the past few years have taken this article way out of alignment with how biographies should be structured. Specifically, this article reads as essentially a compendium of González-Torres' bodies of work, as opposed to a chronological, narrative biography that also details his stylistic evolution and different forms of artistic production, in the context of his life and career. Just right off the bat, the first thing someone reads in the body of this article should not be an analysis of the artist's production - it should be background on his early life and education, much of which has been detailed in reliable publications. There are other issues here, but structure is the most obvious. There is helpful guidance available at the Manual of Style/Biography, but I wanted to flag this now as folks seem to have put a lot of work into adding/adjusting this page over the past year or so. Want to give others a chance to update/edit/bring it in line with the MOS themself before I try to make some major structural changes. 19h00s ( talk) 19:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)