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3 is my recommendation, more or less -- Exploring was around long before LFL and has many aspects besides what is now part of LFL (Air Scouts, Sea Scouts, pre-Venturing Exlorers, career posts, etc). I'm not sure what you mean by LFL category--we don't have one that I see and how many articles would go into such a cat? We could make an Exploring cat and put all such articles in it. If we have a LFL cat, what would it encompass besides Exploring and an LFL article? The modern Venturing program is nothing other than a re-named Exploring program (part of the mass confusion of all this) as many pre-Venturing Explorer Posts were high-adventure oriented. In short, I think LFL should mention Exploring as a summary, but the large Explorering article split off from there.
Rlevse12:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)reply
I propose that the name of the article be changed to Learning for Life. Exploring and the school based programs can then be made sections of that article.
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Jagz16:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)reply
I have some questions before I know how I feel about this. Does "Exploring" still exist as an entity within BSA? I cannot tell from the article. Are posts still extant? If so, are they for Exploring or Learning for Life or both? Is Learning for Life part of BSA? It seems so, from what I read, but I am uncertain.
Unschool16:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)reply
2. OPPOSE change - Exploring has enough tenure and size to stand alone as a subject area. New Wikipedia users would have a more difficult time finding the subject area.
Patchbook01:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)reply
Logo
Since Exploring is not a traditional membership program, it does not use use any Scouting emblems. The "Big E" with the Scout universal emblem is the logo used prior to 1998; current logos use the same emblems, but without the Scout logo. --
Gadget850 ( Ed)10:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)reply
News articles
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The first one appears to be a self-published source. The second one only gives membership numbers. While iot isn't cited, this link would qualify as a reliable source:
However its contents are quite different from this article. The NYT article above would also abe a good source for new material. I'm going to move the Geocities site to an external link (it hardly qualifies even there but it's a stop-gap). Then I'll mark the history section as unsourced. If it isn't sourced after a decent interval anyone may delete it. Will Bebacktalk08:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)reply
You're correct that the program described at that learningforlife.org site is not really what this article is about, but see
Learning for Life, which is. I never knew we had both articles until I stumbled across your comment. They overlap quite a bit, and probably should either be merged, or the material re-allocated between the two different articles, one on Exploring (including the history of the pre-1998 Exploring program as well as what Exploring is today) and another on Learning for Life. Unfortunately, the histories themselves overlap. I also notice that the History section at
Learning for Life seems pretty light on sources itself. Unfortunately, the whole subject is pretty confusing, resulting partly from the BSA's own less-than-perfectly-consistent use of terminology in this area.
Neutron (
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15:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)reply
http://www.learningforlife.org/exploring/ is already included in the infobox, and can be used as a primary source for certain facts. The article has a fair overview of Exploring history, but needs a lot on the current program. We split this out some time back as Exploring does have a history separate from LfL. ---—
Gadget850 (Ed)talk16:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Recent changes to names and titles must be sourced. Exploring has existed since the 1940s and it has often been commonly referred to as Explorer Scouts--
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09:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)reply