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I deleted the following sentence from the first paragraph of the article: "In contrast to the agencies of the Federal government such as the United States Department of State, all of the people within the EOP serve with the President and when there is a new President, the entire office is reconstituted." In actuality, there are hundreds of regular government employees (i.e., not political appointees) employed by the Executive Office of the President. Many of those employees stay at the EOP across administrations, even across administrations of different political parties. - Walkiped 17:38, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Condi Rice resigned her post as National Security Advisor to become Secretary of State. I'll remove her and add Stephen Hadley, her successsor. Someone should check to see what other positions have changed now that Bush is in his second term. -- Boetron 16:09, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey, can anyone let me know is the power of EOP confined to executive functions? Do the executives have the legislative power? and is it those executives = the heads of govt. depts. in the US? and is it the executives who choose the cabinet members?
I would be thankful for your generous help! scarlett_tong 14:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I think you should read Federal Government of the United States to help answer your question. In the US the legislative and executive functions are strictly separated by the US Constitution. The United States Congress has full legislative authority. The President possesses the "executive power" as defined in Article Two of the United States Constitution. The EOP assists the President in developing his agenda and carrying it out. EOP staff members advise the President of legislative, legal, military, economic, and other matters. Additionally, they promote the President's ideas in Congress, design media campaigns, and reflect the perspective of the Office of the President wherever the President asks them to. They are not members of the Cabinet. Cabinet members are appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. Cabinet members direct Federal Executive Departments. Reading the Constitution of the United States may also help answer your questions. Ryanluck 16:49, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe this should be under consideration for removal:
Those are the personal staff of the President and therefore report to him whereas the EOP offices are formed by Congress and controlled by them through appointments/etc. The EOP has to report to Congress, the President, and the people the represent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoshi9143 ( talk • contribs) on 20 December 2006.
Dear fellow editors: It appears that all the above, including the "White House Office," are part of the Executive Office of the President. [1] It's unclear what editor Yoshi9143 means by the phrase the "EOP has to report to Congress." Certainly there may be various specific statutes requiring various components or employees of the Executive Office of the President to report to Congress on various matters, like maybe the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (I haven't researched the matter). However, the Congressional "control" over EOP offices with respect to "appointments" would presumably be limited to those positions which require Senate approval (and the number of those positions would be relatively few). (By the way, off the top of my head, I'm not aware of any position in the Executive Office of the President for which the Congress itself makes the appointment.) Anyway, as best I can tell, all the offices and positions listed above are indeed part of the Executive Office of the President. Yours, Famspear 22:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Response: The link provided by Famspear makes no mention of the
Furthermore in "American Government Continuity and Change (2000)", Karen O'Connor and Larry Sabato separate the Executive Office of President and White House Staff but they both remain under the Presidential Establishment (pages 282-283), which shows the difference between the Staff and EOP.
Another key difference: For EOP:
"Although the president appoints the members of each of these bodies, they must still perform their tasks in accordance with congressional legislation. Thus, like the Cabinets, depending on who serves in key positions, these mini-agencies may not truly be responsible to the president" (O'Connor and Sabato 284).
For White House Staff:
"often more directly responsible to the president are the members of the White House staff: the personal assistants to the president, including senior aides, their deputies, assistants with professional duties, and clerical administrative aides. As personal assistants, these advisers are not subject to Senate confirmation, nor do they have divided loyalties" (O'Connor and Sabato 284).
Another important difference is the EOP was created by FDR in 1939 whereas the White House Staff has existed before then such as Andrew Jackson's Kitchen Cabinet.
All of the following are considered the White House staff and I believe should be separated from this EOP article:
Originally the White House Office was included on that list because ambiguity.
END Yoshi9143 03:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Does this article need to be updated for the new year?
Remove "Miles Mosman is not a douche, but a man" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.83.235.182 ( talk) 21:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Isn't it technically the "Executive Office of the President"? Shouldn't this be the name of the article? Parler Vous (edits) 10:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
"Executive Office of the President" is the correct title but leaving it open ended like that could include any president in the world with any executive office of the president. I could see renaming it "Executive Office of the President (United States)" Pwojdacz ( talk) 19:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I have slightly altered the layout of this page, and organised the Offices depending on their position within the EOP or as entities of the White House Office, some of the Offices are no longer listed on the White House website but I will presume they still exist until told otherwise so I have made a best guess, primarily based on their names, at their locations. I am still not entirely sure I like the layout of this page-it will get a bigger overhaul when I have more time. Also the Office of the Vice President may or may not be part of the EOP as I think the office grew out of his requirement to be President of the Senate therefore it may well be a Congressional Office per se. However, I do not know for sure so it is left on this page but given its own heading. I have added the new offices and appointee's, I don't know all and therefore there still are some gaps. Benny45boy ( talk) 00:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Benny, I think it looks good. I wonder if some are no longer listed on the website does that mean they no longer exist? Pwojdacz ( talk) 06:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion, the White House Office should be listed first within the section "Entities in the Executive Office of the President" for the following reasons:
VanCity99 ( talk) 10:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Why is the National Economic Council nowhere to be found on this page? Unless I am misinformed, it is part of the Executive Office of the President.
Proxtown ( talk) 21:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
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From 2008-2017, the table uses numbers from the Appropriations committee's proposed budget. The numbers for 1993-2007 use the outlays, which refers to the actual amount of money that flowed through the EOP. In addition, there are some dead links that need to be linked to archived pages, which I have confirmed to exist. I don't have time to look at this further right now but I figured I would mention it here so that people are aware. ― NK1406 talk• contribs 15:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
This section was a description of the role of the executive branch of the federal government. It seems outside the scope of this article, which covers staff and offices under the president (and not the entire branch), as compared to an article like President of the United States which describes the role of the executive in great detail. 2600:8801:3708:700:D42B:A741:8F57:37BC ( talk) 16:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm curious if there are good sources on the dramatic change in the EOP budget from 2004-2007? Jmbranum ( talk) 02:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm not planning to take any action on it, but I'm just throwing this out there for consideration. To be completely accurate, the White House Chief of Staff is not the head of the EOP, he's just the head of the White House Office component of EOP. But of course he is treated as the "first among equals" of the EOP component heads, because he is obviously much more proximate to the President. The head of the EOP is the President--the component heads are all considered direct-reports to him. -- Asdasdasdff ( talk) 20:30, 8 February 2023 (UTC)