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There's been some backing and forthing with recent edits. I see that some of the recent edits have been supported by cites to reference.com, but that's a third-party source that supposedly derives its information from other sources (sort of what WP does) and it's written in a fairly informal and non-authoritative-seeming way. Are other editors happy with citing reference.com? — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 09:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
erst einmal sorry, dass ich nicht so gut deutsch spreche. Daher meine Antwort auf deutsch. Wo steht im Gesetz, dass um 5.pm, 6 pm. 7.pm , oder ab wann der Abend beginnt? Nirgends, deshalb halte ich eine genaue Zeitangabe für unangemessen. Daher empfehle ich die deutesche Wikipedia: der genaue zeitliche Beginn des Abends ist nicht genau bestimmt. Das ist aber kein Löschhinweis, :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teletabi ( talk • contribs) 10:10, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
damit wäre ich auch einverstanden. ;) ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Collins online gives both times in a rather vague way. Oxford says 6 p.m. in both the on-line "Lexico" version and the Third Edition (June 2018 update). Where opinions vary, should we not go with the best references? Dbfirs 02:21, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
There is nothing vague about Collins. "Supper is from 5.00 to 6.00 in the evening." Therefore evening starts at 5pm. It is conclusive. This reference is solid. O.E.D reference is actually less clear. " usually from about 6 p.m." is less precise and hardly stands as the best reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.121.247 ( talk) 02:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
A conventional expression used at meeting or parting in the evening. -- Backinstadiums ( talk) 16:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Can we all just agree 5pm is the answer for start time
Collins is a great source 99.234.150.50 ( talk) 21:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Seems to be LT content dispute going on here
5pm or 6pm?
Valid refs for both
When does it really start? 207.96.178.53 ( talk) 01:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Supper is from 5.00 to 6.00 in the evening.) to show how the word "evening" can be used in a sentence. It's a poor source for the statement that for some speakers evenings
may start as early as 5 p.m.
esp. the time from about 6 p.m., or sunset if earlier, to bedtime.
Depending on the speaker, it may start as early as 5 p.m.is a bad sentence, though (a new user just changed it, perhaps not unreasonably, to 4pm), and I've removed it. -- Belbury ( talk) 13:39, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
some approximate times that many people would agree withand precedes it with
There is no exact time when each one begins and ends. It's also only an "Ask the Editor" column - the Britannica dictionary definition does not state a time. The OED reference also being cited here says 6pm rather than 5pm (
close of day, esp. the time from about 6 p.m., or sunset if earlier), which seems if anything stronger than the Britannica.
supper is from 5.00 to 6.00 in the eveningexample tells us that Collins considers 5pm to be part of the evening, but it doesn't tell us when they think it starts - they could think 4.30pm or earlier. This source has been inaccurately used to support 5pm as a start point in past versions of the article.
Google say "the period of time at the end of the day, usually from about 6 p.m. to bedtime." It says it's from Oxford Languages, which seems reliable, but there doesn't seem to be a link to the specific dictionary page. Benjamin ( talk) 17:55, 18 October 2023 (UTC)