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After whistleblower accounts that forced sterilizations are happening to women in ICE camps at the US Southern border, should a note about this be added in the last section of the article? Concrete sources will likely become available in the next few days/weeks if the accusation itself is not enough proof.
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"In addition, the scoring was biased toward white, middle-class babies" no citation, clear opinion. There are heaps more throughout the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.67.229 ( talk) 23:16, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Do people think that some mention of Sterilization and Eugenics programs in Puerto Rico deserve mention? Puerto Rico has been administered by the United States government since 1898, and before 1952, it was even more directly controlled by the office of the President, who appointed the government of Puerto Rico. The 'pill' was first tested on Puerto Ricans before it's use in the United States. Also historian Christopher Thorne described it this way:
Subjects to do with breeding and race seem, indeed, to have held a certain fascination for the President... Roosevelt felt it in order to talk, jokingly, of dealing with Puerto Rico's excessive birth rate by employing, in his own words, "the methods which Hitler used effectively." He said to Charles Taussig and William Hassett, as the former recorded it, "that it is all very simple and painless. You have people pass through a narrow passage and then there is a brrrrr of an electrical apparatus. They stay there for twenty seconds and from then on they are sterile."[29]
By 1965, one third of Puerto Rican women of child bearing age had been sterilized, many without their knowledge or consent, or were misinformed that the process was reversible. Whole villages had to shut down schools because of lack of children, as is well documented in the documentary La Operacion.
Because of the close connection of the programs and policies in Puerto Rico and the US, I think it deserves mention. Your thoughts?
Modern Eugenics in practice today: Sperm banks are used as a way to increase the likelihood of a child's health and overall success. When donating, the man will give over a lot of medical information. This information will make him more desirable. The amount paid to a man is also dependent upon his current success as a person (intelligence and overall health) are large factors.
Other clubs and organizations: In this article there are only those two contests that were brushed upon, but at this same time there were plenty of politicians that would talk about this, as well as lobby groups that existed for these topics.
this page, even the intro, reeks of pov in favor of the concept. 24.17.211.150 ( talk) 01:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
This page is cr*p. So many, many grammatical errors that it cannot be taken seriously, not to mention a lack of verification of sources. It should be scrapped. It reads as though it were edited by people with a variety of different political agendas, including those opposed to birth control and abortion as well as those in favor of eugenics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.138.44 ( talk) 00:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I understand that 7 states still have sterilization laws on the books (source: Great Courses program, "Darwinian Revolution" Prof: Fredrick Gregory) -- and it would be useful to list those if someone has an appropriate set of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.71.205.176 ( talk) 12:41, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Quite a few citations have been tagged as possibly unreliable sources. For example, this webpage: Eugenic Laws Against Race Mixing at the Eugenics Archive. Could someone explain the concerns about these sources? Will Beback talk
I am making the following additions to the page in order to better represent women's roles in the United States Eugenics Movement, as both the movement's champions and its victims. After reading the article, I noticed it did not delineate the unique role that women played in promoting eugenic legislation and supporting the eugenic agenda. From my extensive research on the subject, I have learned that Margaret Sanger, southern clubwomen, and several other feminists in general played an important role in advocating and passing eugenic legislation (in addition to the scientists, politicians, and theorists). I also have learned that men and women were compulsorily sterilized for different reasons, and that women of certain ethnic groups were targeted more than others. Lastly, I have learned that given the two different approaches of "positive" eugenicists and "negative" eugenicists, men and women of the upper and lower classes fit in differently to the eugenic agenda. It is my hope that my additions will be helpful to readers, and inspire them to learn more about the fascinating and controversial United States Eugenics Movement! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancingpenguins123 ( talk • contribs) 18:36, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Based on the actual signs being held, especially the one about not being able to read the sign the man is holding, makes me question if these men are actual 'supporters' of eugenics. They could be people paid to hold the signs by actual eugenics supporters - after all, if the one man can't read the sign he is holding, does anyone know if that sign was explained to him? Jtyroler ( talk) 20:31, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
This has got to be the most biased page I have ever seen on Wikipedia. This is complete garbage! Whoever wrote this should be ashamed of themselves. First off, this page violates NPOV. Secondly, this page was written in a cryptic style to avoid mentioning the less desirable aspects of eugenics. This article needs cleaned up now (though I bet you will just delete this). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.126.14 ( talk) 08:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Can I get a better source for Eugenics was practiced in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and actually, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter.? The source Lombardo, page 1 does not cover the point of inspiration. Night of the Big Wind talk 20:16, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
See historic section at Planned Parenthood. PP history is an undeniable and relevant part of the eugenics movement at the United States, as well as the International Planned Parenthood Federation. [1] Planned Parenthood is mentioned by the sources dealing with eugenics movement. [2] [3] [4] [5] Birth control is recognized by the sources as being strong related to eugenic movement and goals. [6] [7] [8] [9] Planned Parenthood was founded by the eugenics moevement at U.S., Maragaret Sanger -an eugenic movement leader [10]- is one of the well known founders of Planned Parenthood. -- ClaudioSantos ¿? 17:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
This issue has been decided at Talk:Planned Parenthood#Planned Parenthood eugenics link. I'll summarize. There was strong consensus to exclude the link to Eugenics in the United States in the See also section. A few editors including ClaudioSantos objected. In order to address the concerns raised by those who wanted to include the link, a paragraph which treated the topic in NPOV and gave it appropriate context was added to the Controversies section. ClaudioSantos strongly objected and was banned for a week for edit-warring. I hope this helps. It is clear from that discussion, that including links in the see also section of this article to Planned Parenthood would not be appropriate. Metal.lunchbox ( talk) 22:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
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This article includes the following about Margaret Sanger, 'She once wrote, “more children from the fit, less from the unfit—that is the chief issue of birth control.”' This is a misattribution documented in several reliable sources it also directly contradicts her known position against positive eugenics, that is, encouraging the rich or white or whatever on earth people thought made up the "fit" to have more offspring. At least one example: "we should recognize the difficulties presented by the idea of "fit" and "unfit." Who is to decide this question?" From Pivot of Civilization. The quote in question is from an editorial written by the editors of American Medicine. see "more+children+from+the+fit"&hl=en&ei=Psc9TufpFKjWiAKNzZ3DBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false The Pivot of Civilization bottom of page 10 and top of page 11. If that isn't proof then you can look at May 1919 Birth Control Review page 12 right column to see where the phrase appears. I normally wouldn't go to so much trouble but this is an article with lots of disputes and anything related to abortion excites people who like to argue. I don't want to argue. I just don't want wikipedia to be repeating damaging misattributions like this. I am asking that it be removed completely. Metal.lunchbox ( talk) 23:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
In light of reason modifications to the Early proponents section and efforts to mark parts of the paragraph as needing citation and then marking citations as failing verification, I thought I should offer an explanation. First, some of the citations are to primary sources. Primary sources are allowed on wikipedia but we must use them with care: "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements that any educated person, with access to the source but without specialist knowledge, will be able to verify are supported by the source." As such the primary sources I have used are to demonstrate the Margaret Sangers statements/positions, an appropriate use of primary sources. Just because it is not a direct quote does not make it synthesis or original research. It would be good to back these up with secondary sources but undermining the claims by marking them as unsupported is inappropriate in this case. This being such a contentious topic I hope that further discussion will not have to take place in the form of edit summaries. Metal lunchbox ( talk) 00:27, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
I seen it mentioned elsewhere, including on other Wikipedia articles, that the discovery of the Nazi atrocities including it's much more comprehensive eugenics program at the end of the war help turn public opinion on eugenics in the U.S. against eugenics. I didn't see any mention of this in this in the article though. I think there should be something on post-WWII/post-Nazi changing attitude towards eugenics among the U.S. populace should be added. -- Cab88 ( talk) 09:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
The Early Proponents section, paragraph 6, final sentence, states:
"For Sanger, it was individual women and not the state who should determine whether or not to have a child."
This statement flies in the face of Ms. Sangers own writings. In The Pivot of Civilization, Chapter IV, Paragraph 2, Ms. Sanger writes:
"There is every indication that feeble-mindedness in its protean forms is on the increase, that it has leaped the barriers, and that there is truly, as some of the scientific eugenists have pointed out, a feeble-minded peril to future generations--unless the feeble-minded are prevented from reproducing their kind. To meet this emergency is the immediate and peremptory duty of every State and of all communities."
Then, in Paragraph 24 of the same chapter:
"The emergency problem of segregation and sterilization must be faced immediately. Every feeble-minded girl or woman of the hereditary type, especially of the moron class, should be segregated during the reproductive period. Otherwise, she is almost certain to bear imbecile children, who in turn are just as certain to breed other defectives. The male defectives are no less dangerous. Segregation carried out for one or two generations would give us only partial control of the problem. Moreover, when we realize that each feeble- minded person is a potential source of an endless progeny of defect, we prefer the policy of immediate sterilization, of making sure that parenthood is absolutely prohibited to the feeble-minded." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eve.josechung ( talk • contribs) 20:55, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
(Emphasis Mine)
Reference: http://www.archive.org/stream/thepivotofcivili01689gut/old/pvcvl10.txt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eve.josechung ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Autism Speaks is a pretty large Eugenics organization in the United States, I think it should have mention in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.157.158 ( talk) 19:31, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding a bare bones paragraph regarding this infamous eugenics experiment. I'm sure one of the regular editors who follows this article would be interested in expanding it since there is a great deal of controversy about the study, the authors and the eugenics movement.There is lots written in medical, bioethical and legal circles about it but I am probably not the one to expand it since I am unfamiliar with the editing history of the present article. Regards to all. Trilobitealive ( talk) 02:19, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
“ | The 1932-1972 Tuskegee syphilis experiment, a U.S. Public Health Service clinical study of the natural history of syphilis in untreated African-American men is an example of human experimentation which tested eugenic and racial theories of disease resistance. [1] It is now widely cited by ethicists and medicolegal experts as an eugenics precident case illustrating the need for fully informed consent by subjects of medical experimentation. [2] |
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Surely eugenics or even medicine also do not see people as equals, but the point is we can not base the article on (y)our opinion on what is or what has been eugenics, but we must restrict to publish what the sources do say. And also we can not assume based on (y)our opinion that Lombardo fails to understand what eugenics really means or that he fails to consider adequately the facts. The paper by Lombardo is a reliable, verifiable and academic source which argues and documents that Tuskegee was an experiment to test an eugenics hypothesis. More over, he is not the only one author who refers to Tuskegee as an eugenic case, but I have cited above some other reliable and verifiable sources that claim the same and even state that it was "protoypical" and "important" case of eugenics. These mentioned sources do support that Tuskegee case deserves more than a link in the "see also" section. If actually it was also a case of racism, precisely of medical racism, and if racism is intertwined with eugenics, then Tuskegee experiment surely deserves also a section in articles about racism and perhaps also at some articles dealing with medical topics, but the thing here is that Tuskegee experiment also deserves a section in this article about Eugenics in the United States, due reliable sources do support this. The section should be restored. -- ClaudioSantos ¿? 22:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps, since I was the one who initially suggested including this topic in the article I might be able to help reduce the rift in opinion expressed here. From my elderly perspective the argument arises from the not entirely accurate definition used by both sides of this disagreement which is stated in the article lead-in. Eugenics as originally formulated was was a thinking tool, an hypothesis used to approach what its originators perceived as the problem of the divergence between natural selection and social selection within populations. Instead of imagining its origin as being a social movement you need to recognize it as merely a way of structuring ideas. Analogies would be Newton's calculus which he used to approach the calculation problems of celestial mechanics or Derrida's methods of deconstruction which he applied to semantic analysis. It was only in retrospect that eugenics became a social movement with implications and derivations which have since been debated. Thank you. Trilobitealive ( talk) 13:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It continues to be that the problem with the Tuskegee syphilis experiment being mentioned in this article about eugenics is that there was no eugenics component to the test procedure. I have not yet seen that attribute properly addressed by those who want the paragraph or section retained. Binksternet ( talk) 05:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
While the connections made in Lombardo may have have merit... Only time will tell if they are embraced by the scholarly community. Until then I'd say it fails per WP:WEIGHT. — ArtifexMayhem ( talk) 23:08, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I have removed a section that was, in my opinion, irrelevant for this article.
“ | In February 2012, Massachusetts family-court judge Christina Harris ordered the sterilization of an unnamed schizophrenic woman known as "Mary Moe." The decision was overturned on appeal in which the appeals court stated that Harris "appears to have simply produced the requirement out of thin air." [1] | ” |
To me, it is just a single incident that says nothing about "Eugenics in the United States" in general. The section was added without discussion, but the last one to readd it, wanted discussion about removal. And I like the discussion about adding.
Should this section be added to the article or is it irrelevant? Night of the Big Wind talk 16:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Takes me to SFGate 404 page. Anyone have the article? Andrevan @ 09:34, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Our collegue Gnrshaw added some information] that I have some doubt over. He removed some parts and replaced it with information that, in my opinion, gives undue weight to these facts. Please take a look and give your opinion. The Banner talk 14:49, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
I love that an article about the United States has British English in it. Yet another example of the systemic problems of Wikipedia. -- Buddy13 ( talk) 09:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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In the references, "Alexander" Stern should be "Alexandra" Stern 68.43.190.168 ( talk) 01:57, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
The last paragraph of the lead states Today eugenics in the United States is still officially permitted. But I can not find that with so many words in the sources given with that paragraph. Do I overlook something? The Banner talk 16:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I would like to add a section called "Modern medical views," and include a subsection on "Compulsory sterilization" and "Genetic screening." What are your thoughts?
See Compulsory_sterilization#United_States for medical views.
See History_of_eugenics#Ethical_re-assessment and Liberal eugenics for genetic screening. Waters.Justin ( talk) 15:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
"The Rockefeller Foundation helped develop and fund various German eugenics programs, including the one that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz." This is written in the article. I took it out. The source of the claim, Edwin Black is a conspiracy theorist, who has written a book arguing IBM was responsible for the Holocaust. In my view, this is a conspiracy theory claim, and at the very least the wording should be changed to alleged instead of stating it as a proven fact. I do not consider the author cited, Edwin Black, a reliable source.-- PaulBustion88 ( talk) 18:07, 12 April 2015 (UTC) I know the Rockefeller family and the Rockefeller Foundation are two different things, but they are obviously linked, the Rockefeller family started the Rockefeller Foundation. The Rockefeller family have leaned left politically. John D. Rockefeller, Jr. hired a Trotskyist named Diego Rivera to do the artwork for Rockefeller Center, that's why Glenn Beck thought there were Bolshevik symbols in Rockefeller Center, he was right about that. The Rockefellers supported the Trotskyist educator John Dewey's philosophy and helped spread it. They have been supporters of homosexuality being treated as equal with heterosexuality and of homosexual marriage, of abortion on demand, of the UN's crusade against customs of some archaic societies such as Islamic ones such as "child" marriage, of forcing contraception on people, etc. They also have been supporters of affirmative action, and of letting foreigners overrun the USA through immigration. The Rockefellers have wanted to let foreigners come in the USA and outnumber European descended Americans so they would become a minority. That's not Nazism. I find the claim that the Rockefellers helped the Nazis in any way extremely unlikely. The Rockefellers are more like communists than Nazis, and their foundation is also. -- PaulBustion88 ( talk) 18:16, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Virginia was a major state in the eugenics movement. Buck v. Bell was tried there and the Supreme Court decision led to other states following Virginia and writing similar eugenics laws. In February 2015, the government decided to compensate individuals sterilized due to eugenics, so there is still a lot of public attention to eugenics in Virginia. Building this article will help to create a resource for anyone looking for information on the subject. Please help to write the article. Thank you. Draft:Eugenics in Virginia. Waters.Justin ( talk) 18:54, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
The phrase "mentally retarded" is used four times in the article. The term was acceptable common usage once, so it might be appropriate to use it in places when placed in quotation marks, but other times it should be replaced with "mentally disabled" instead. I think only in the phrase "In the 1970s, several activists and women's rights groups discovered several physicians to be performing coerced sterilizations of specific ethnic groups of society. All were abuses of poor, nonwhite, or mentally retarded women", should it be maintained in quotation marks, because the term was commonly used around the 1980s and its usage gives a flavour of terminology used at the time. Elsewhere, when referring to the 1920s when the term was not commonly used, it should be replaced with an era-appropriate term in quotation marks or a modern term like mentally disabled. Mendrandi ( talk) 23:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
I have some troubles with the newly added section Eugenics in the United States#21st century. The text that prenatal screening is a form of contemporary eugenics because it prevents the birth of people with conditions considered undesirable seems to be more "tough" than the source We argue that prenatal screening (and specifically NIPT) for Down syndrome can be considered a form of contemporary eugenics, in that it effaces, devalues, and possibly prevents the births of people with the condition. . Please have a look at it. The Banner talk 19:58, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
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TDFergus This sentence - The Project often sought after prominent African American leaders to spread knowledge regarding birth control and the perceived positive effects it would have on the African American community, such as poverty and the lack of education [1] - seems to be missing something/I'm not entirely sure what was meant by it; it seems like this sentence suggests poverty and a lack of education are "perceived positive effects." I also linked a few key people and groups mentioned in this section to their own wikipedia articles. I recommend adding a sentence or two after the final quote in the section on Planned Parenthood and the African American Community to explain the importance of the quote, or show why it is important for it to be in the article. Cbshier Great job making sure that all of the titles of the sections were properly capitalized, linking key words in your contribution to their respective wiki pages, and making sure that your contribution sounds encyclopedic. All of your sources appear to be credible as well. Although it was not part of your contribution, consider taking a look at the 21st Century section and try to develop it a bit more - are there other things that people consider contemporary eugenics? Nick M-PS489 ( talk) 01:07, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
SecretKeeper I agree with the above edits and honestly, I think that you've made huge improvements in this article from source corrections, date corrections to new and important information added. Sentence structure is appropriate for an article of this calbire and this wide of an audience. You can always add more and you can always tigten up flow a bit more to perfect it further. SecretKeeper ( talk) 09:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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I came to this article from the Wikipedia entry on Compulsory sterilization. It states in section 3.14 (relating to its use in the United States) that "148 female prisoners in two California institutions were sterilized between 2006 and 2010 in a supposedly voluntary program, but it was determined that the prisoners did not give consent to the procedures."
Presumably such information belongs on this page as well? I am loathe to edit this article, as I am not a subject matter expert; I simply raise the question for those who are SMEs, as this article currently seems to leave the subject of ongoing - or even relatively recent - practices undiscussed. While it indicates that there is legislation seeking to prevent compulsory sterilization, and discusses the avoidance of those requirements, there is no clear discussion of relatively recent practices from the 1980s to the beginning of the current decade. Put another way, the reader is left without 'closure' of what I while wearing my 'non-objective hat' would describe as a repugnant piece of history. Ambiguosity ( talk) 14:26, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
There are many reasons that discussing eugenics is important to our US History and many history classes do not mention anything about it until you reach the university level. Of course, the eugenics practices in the US were not as extreme as it was in Nazi Germany, however, we did begin the thought process that was later picked up and transformed by Nazi Germany. We need to take responsibility as a country for the actions that occurred legally and supported by science that we should forcefully sterilize people who were not "fit to live or procreate". Kelscmn697 ( talk) 20:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)kelscmn697
Considering the scope of the subject as well as the powerful emotional reaction it so readily causes, this is generally a decent article.
But Eugenics in the United States#Genetic engineering strikes me as speculative, sort of "this branch of science could be used in a eugenic manner." The term "genetic engineering" appears a dozen times in the article, all of them in this section (and, presently, without a single pointer to Genetic engineering — which, indicatively, makes no mention of eugenics). It's a sort of Promethean problem, and probably not the place of W'pedia to editorialize about specific potentials for misuse, particularly outside of the relevant article. Uncredited claims are made, such as This ultimately causes a link between genetic engineering and eugenics and The public fears this will cause issues due to the fact that practices like these may be used to eliminate entire groups of people, like the way Hitler used the idea, leading me to see OR.
It reminds me somewhat of claims by antiabortion activists that Planned Parenthood should be blocked from low-income communities because it might be a means to reduce reproduction of "undesirable" (poor, immigrant, nonwhite) populations, rather than merely providing birth-control access on parity with wealthier strata.
Besides, the section is written in a somewhat chatty manner, with questionable grammar, so at very least needs copyediting. Five citations are made, two of them to an apparent paywall, and two to the History Channel site; the latter cites an "article" from Helix (Northwestern University) that's actually an op-ed piece by "a PhD student" with somewhat questionable logic such as Recent advances in genetics and reproductive technology have opened the door to a new form of eugenics, termed “modern eugenics,” or “human genetic engineering” (no citation to support that ANYONE but the author has used those two terms in such a freely interchangeable manner).
Given the aforementioned emotionality, I'm reluctant to jump in and hack away. Input welcome.
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Recently Judge Thomas wrote over a dozen pages on eugenics and abortion. His concern was a law the prohibited abortions when the mothers motivation was based on "race, sex or disability of the fetus." Given the attention to his remarks, it seems reasonable to include this controversy in the article. It's notable regardless of its merits. Here are a few links: [16], [17] and [18] Jason from nyc ( talk) 15:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
As a class assignment, my group members and I plan to reorganize the article with an emphasis on adding subsections. Under "Compulsory Sterilization", we will be adding specific sections on African American women, Latina women, and Native American women. For future edits, we would recommend a more thorough reorganization of the article. -- Kalinamajercak ( talk) 21:32, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Since there are articles for the Sterilization of Native American women and Sterilization of Latinas, then I believe that there should also be an article for the sterilization of African Americans considering that it was far more widespread than the other two. Also, this article contains more information under the section regarding African Americans than under the sections regarding Native American women and Latinas. Thoughts? Momo824 ( talk) 02:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Our names are Sresth and Kyle and we are Georgetown University students participating in a Wiki education course. We would like to propose some improvements to this article. We acknowledge that both the talk page and article itself are very in depth, but we feel like the article could expand upon eugenics in the US related to the LGBTQ community. Looking at other comments, we agree that Forced Sterilization in Puerto Rico should be added. It might not have enough content to make its own Wiki page, but definitely has a place within the page about the US.
It has been shown that taking cross hormones, which are often prescribed for transgender youth, can reduce fertility, and there is a lack of research regarding whether or not this fertility change is reversible. [1] While there is the option to start puberty and delay treatment in order to store sperm or eggs, some people may not want to do this. In essence, this makes it significantly harder for transgender people to have kids of their own. Many anti-trans activists only want to legally recognize people who have undergone sterilizing genital surgeries. [2] While this is not exactly similar to other more direct forms of eugenics, it achieves a similar effect by ensuring that transgender people will not be able to have their own kids if they want their gender to be legally recognized.
We also found that the article did not mention how eugenics in the United States led to modern-day homophobia by means of ostracizing the LGBTQ community. Since it was believed by some that sexuality was carried through genetics, the goal of eugenicists was to prevent the intermarriage of people in the LGBTQ community and heterosexuals. In order to protect the concept of “purity,” people in power created “medicalized homophobia”, with the goal being to have homosexuals hated by society. The rift between heterosexual and homosexual was effectively formed, effectively preventing the intermarriage between the two groups. [3]
In response to previous comments, we believe that the sterilization experiments occurring in the prison population in California can be classified as eugenics. Although there are some cases where it may be difficult to define them as “eugenics,” there is evidence of a targeted demographic in this case (minority women), showing that there is a larger motive to prevent the proliferation of a race. [4] Ky258 ( talk) 04:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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Don't you find it kind of ironic that on the very article that discusses discrimination and labelling you use words almost universally rejected by the latino communities themselves? It's even more ridiculous when you consider that "latin" is a gender-neutral word. Even worse. It's actually the latinas who got sterilized, not the men, so it makes absolutely no sense to use that word. 2800:150:107:773:7C53:E529:FDCE:6545 ( talk) 20:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
This article makes the classic mistake of assuming forced sterilization = eugenics. Not every forced sterilization, especially post-WWII, was committed out of eugenic motivations. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 16:29, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Under "Sterilization of Native American Women" the opening sentence says that an estimated 40% of Native American Women in the United States underwent sterilization in the 1970's. This figure is linked to footnote 111, which is an essay titled "Legalised non-consensual sterilisation - Eugenics put into practice before 1945..." by Jean-Jacques and Rowlands. I read this essay, which also uses the figure of 40% of Native American Women; however the essay's source for their information came from a different article titled "An act of genocide: Canada's coerced sterilization of First Nations women" by C. Parker. I was not able to find "An act of genocide..." to read what it said (the link was invalid), or where Parker got the 40% figure, but I believe that this wikipedia article needs to be changed to reflect that the original source of data is not about Native American people in the US, but rather Native American people in Canada (or at least in Northern America in general). Opera-pathology ( talk) 20:45, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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In the section Genetic engineering, in the first sentence's opening, "After Adolf Hitler's advanced idea of eugenics" CHANGE the word advanced to extreme because advanced sometimes can have positive connotations, which are not the section's intent. BalletForCattle ( talk) 15:43, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
This page is locked from edits apparently due to vandalism. There’s an error in the first paragraph of the History section. It uses “lead” instead of “led” as the past tense. If someone with authorization could fix that, I’d appreciate it. 2601:346:B00:B100:CA1:6E6F:185:261B ( talk) 07:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 10 January 2024 and 30 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Annatsioulias, Aaa564, Bmg100 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Meeradahiya02, Marinati55, Sc2081.
— Assignment last updated by Liliput000 ( talk) 00:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I want to add more information about anti-miscegenation laws. Under the Efforts to Shape American Families section, I want to add information about explicitly what the laws prohibited, how these laws were related to the eugenics movement, where these laws were enacted (listing states with these laws), how long these laws were in place (when the first laws were enacted and when the last laws were overturned), and Loving v. Virginia (the case that overturned these laws). While these laws are referenced and linked to another wiki page in this article, these laws were a part of the eugenics movement in the United States and thus should be expanded upon in this article. Aaa564 ( talk) 20:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
In the section titled “compulsory sterilization,” I want to add a section about the history of forced sterilization in US prisons, i.e. where these sterilizations took place, who performed these forced sterilizations, the rational behind these sterilizations and the rules allowing or sometimes encouraging them, how long these rules allowing for forced sterilizations in some US prisons took place, which populations were most affected. The history of compulsory sterilization in US prisons is only briefly mentioned in this article, once when discussing eugenic sterilization before World War II, and another time mentioning how forced sterilization continues to present day in California prisons. Annatsioulias ( talk) 20:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
At present it contains a great deal of stuff about forced sterilizations that were not eugenically motivated. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 15:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
In the section titled Eugenics After World War II, I want to add a section about disability-selective abortion. I want to include how advancements in prenatal genetic testing have given rise to the use of disability-selective abortions, what the bioethical implications of disability-selective abortions are, and what the arguments for and against the practice of disability-selective abortion in the United States are. While genetic engineering is discussed in this article, there is no mention of disability, which is a fundamental part of the eugenics movement in the United States. Bmg100 ( talk) 17:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)