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A fact from Eugénie Hamer appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 March 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that to attend the 1915
Women at the Hague Congress, Eugénie Hamer and the Belgian delegates drove, were frisked, walked two hours, and took a train?
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Hey BennyOnTheLoose, thanks for picking her up. She's one of those women I've been wanting to write for years, but not enough sources had been digitized. I appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with you to improve it.
SusunW (
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14:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
Spot check on Little is known of her early life - no issues.
Activism
Optionally, say a little about the purposes of the Cercle des Dames de la Croix Rouge. (I don't think that Red Cross requires a wikilink though.)
I'm not sure how I would source this. I can't find anything specifically related to Belgium, but from what I can see in sources from Montreal and Paris, it was the women's auxiliary of the Red Cross. Perhaps the easiest way is to just link Women's Circle to
Auxiliaries, which I've done.
SusunW (
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19:12, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Again optionally, if sources allow, add a little about the purposes of the Alliance Belge pour la Paix par l'Éducation.
requiring her care - consider rewording, as I don't think it's true that Hamer's brother required her care.
Actually both sources indicate that. Laqua states "she remained in Belgium and cared for her brother, who had been injured in combat with the Germans". (My reading on her indicated that her pacifist friends tried to get her to leave the country, but she refused because she wanted to take charge of his recuperation.) Perhaps it is clearer to say that "She nursed him back to health." If that works DoneSusunW (
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19:12, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Spot check on Hamer was known for her pacifism, but struggled with her patriotic feelings, advocating that peace could not occur until Belgium was liberated - no issues.
Spot check on They drove to Essen, where they were frisked to the skin and then walked two hours to reach Roosendaal in the Netherlands. - no issues. Source has "searched to the skin" and a similar construction about them walking, but IMO ther is not a problem, per
WP:LIMITED.
Career
writing on diverse topics about art, - maybe something like "including" instead of "about"? (Also applies to the lead)
Spot check on She published two books... - no issues.
There's a slight inconsistency in whether translations of titles are provided - is there a rationale for this?
I'm old and forgetful? Actually, it's a mental block. I find it totally weird that en.wp translates things like journals, papers, and buildings that are never translated out of their native tongue. (We don't attempt to translate Palazzo Pitti or Le Figaro in our articles on same, but if those are included within an article we translate them. What we do to Spanish institutions is even crazier. Absolutely no one calls UNAM (Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México) the National Autonomous University of Mexico that except English speakers. So weird. Perhaps I've fixed it? I tried anyway, but let me know if I missed something.
SusunW (
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19:12, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
awarded the Victory and Commemoration Medal and the Plaque of Honor by the Red Cross - unfortunately my preview of the book doesn't include page 306 - if it gives a date when this was awarded, that detail could be added.
All good - but see the comment above about "diverse topics about"
Excellent work,
SusunW (and
Ipigott). Obviously a lot of work has gone into researching and writing this, and I have only the most modest of suggestions to make. I made a few minor formatting changes as it was quicker than listing them out. Regards,
BennyOnTheLoose (
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17:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the responses,
SusunW, it's aways a pleasure to work with you too, as it involves reading interesting articles and receiving consrtuctive, thoughtful responses to whatever little suggestions and queries I have. I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria, so am passing it.
BennyOnTheLoose (
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07:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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... that to attend the 1915
Women at the Hague Congress, Eugénie Hamer and the Belgian delegates (pictured) drove, were frisked, walked two hours, and the took a train? Source:
p 210
Overall: I reviewed this for GA, and hope that it's OK for me to review for DYK too. The picture is, I think, clear enough at this size to represent the delegation. Both propsoed hooks are fine - I prefer the first.
BennyOnTheLoose (
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11:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)reply