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To all those interested, in this group. This article, while seeming well, should probably merged with transubstantiation. Please all tell me what you think.
This article, if it is to stand as an independent article, needs a lot of work.
I don't think it ought to be merged with "Transubstantiation," because that is one of several doctrines or theories, concerning eucharistic theology. Were it not that the transubstantiation article is much fuller and more complete than this one, I would suggest a reverse merger.
It certainly ought to be placed in with the series on Communion, and I wonder whether, if a merger is appropriate, the proper merger is with " Eucharist," which is a very full and complete article, needing "touch-ups," not major revision.-- Deaconse 12:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Symbolism-forbidding mysticists apart, has there been any enhanced analysis on what the bread and wine symbolizes? The bible says that the wine symbolises the new covenant and that it is blood shedded for the forgiveness of the sins of many, but why is blood connected to a new covenant? (Don't answer me, enhance the article, if it is not elsewhere in Wikipedia!) The bible is unclear exactly on what the body symbolises (not "meat" in bible), except something about Jesus sacrificing his body. It seems Christians (other than me) battles like idiots about some underlying non-Christian philosophical interpretation, while not caring very much about the symbolic content and logic of the rite. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 20:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
The article is headed "Eucharistic Theology", but it almost the only theological subject mentioned with Eucharistic Presence What about Eucharistic Sacrifice?
Are the descriptions of rites really part of this article? Some look good to me but feel out of place here--
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00:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
This articles seems obviously WP:content forked with Eucharistic theologies summarised. Please discuss strategies for merging. A discussion was started last year at talk:Eucharistic theologies summarised#Merge suggestion, but the discussion should happen here because this is the logical page to merge to. In that discussion, it was suggested that Eucharist, Real presence, Eucharistic theology, and Eucharistic theologies summarised all be merged, but it seems wise to start with these two pages and then perhaps all four could be merged. JFHutson ( talk) 16:58, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
OK, this seems obvious and I think enough time has passed for interested parties to object. I'm just going to start trying to find each bulleted Eucharistic theologies summarised item in Eucharistic theology, delete it if I find it and copy it if I don't. Feel free to help. JFHutson ( talk) 18:38, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Obviously there would need to be parallel articles on the positions of different churches in addition. Jpacobb ( talk) 17:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I think the next step for this article is to merge with Real presence. Eucharistic theology probably has more in it about real presence than real presence, creating a REDUNDANTFORK. If these two articles were merged, even without cutting redundant material, we would have 46 kb of readable prose size, which is not too big. This article is not a SUMMARY, because the vast majority of it is on real presence, and the real presence material could be incorporated without making the article too big. -- JFHutson ( talk) 20:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate the laudable boldness of Noblethrasher, but I think the diagram added needs radical revision before it can be accepted as a reliably sourced contribution. The "real presence" view is by no means limited to "many Anglicans and Methodists". It is the view principally of Catholics and Orthodox. If Calvinists etc. consider a spiritual presence to be real, it includes even them, but that is not what Catholics and Orthodox mean by "real presence" in this context. "Literally become" is a less precise description than "objectively become" or "actually become" for the belief of Catholics and Orthodox. These hold that the bread and wine "become" the body and blood of Christ; others may go no more than to say that they "are" the body and blood of Christ. Esoglou ( talk) 20:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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Explanation: when adding citations in this section, I noticed that Cornelius Stam stated his belief in observing the Lord's supper. Therefore, I removed his name as an example of the proponents of the suspension or adeipnonism viewpoint. Rlvaughn ( talk) 01:32, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
The overview section is worded oddly, stating various views as fact, and only then stating who holds these views. If there is no objection, I would like to reverse this ordering and phrase these views in typical fashion, eg. Quakers believe that... Sondra.kinsey ( talk) 18:29, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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