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Hey there. I'm thinking about expanding the article to meet the standards of
WP:RS as well as
WP:BLP. As this is a BLP, all unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material should be removed per the policy on
verifiability. So far, there has been one source. I will go ahead and try to search for some sources. Thoughts or objections?
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions)
05:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Erin recently tweeted that her roles were deleted from her page,
https://twitter.com/ErinFitzgerald/status/697315740550975488 which prompted a bunch of IP and relatively new editors to restore unsourced material. Please use cite video game or cite episode when referencing credits of video games and cartoons for Erin Fitzgerald. Do not use your own hearing or voice matching videos as that is original research. And do not use IMDb as a reference
WP:IMDB/RS. You cannot use her own website credits page after she references Wikipedia itself
[1] since that is
WP:CIRCULAR. You can use her biography since that is still her writeup.
[2] This is her last known credits list that doesn't reference Wikipedia.
[3] You can also use her tweets announcing her own roles. There are only about 6 roles that have not been confirmed. Her credits list have not been massively wiped despite what Erin's tweet said.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
15:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I just tagged the article with regard to COI, advertisement, and sourcing. This has clearly been under heavy pressure from people seeking to promote Fitzgerald. I will see what I can do to get the IP editor to stop, by talking with them. We will see how that goes.
Jytdog (
talk)
04:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:NOT, which is a policy and pillar of Wikipedia, this is an encyclopedia, meant to provide enduring "accepted knowledge". Wikipedia articles aren't personal websites for promotion, nor are they fansites. So I cut the filmography from the article in
this dif and I am moving this exhaustive table here for discussion. This needs to be dramatically pared back, or put in some kind of
WP:LIST article. Also, twitter and linkedin are not acceptable sources.
Jytdog (
talk) 04:58, 25 February 2016 (UTC) (see below, I moved it
Jytdog (
talk)
06:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC))reply
Per discussion at COIN and here, I have restored the filmography which allows for primary sources, but have condensed the roles in Monster High and Ever After High back to one entry each. I have also removed the non-Wikipedia-notable movies and television shows. If someone needs that information they can go to her website, but I agree it would be cruft for here.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
18:38, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
apparently bloated, under-sourced bio
This needs to be weeded down, I think and the eye-hurting forest of
WP:OVERLINKing toned down. I will leave that for more experienced to weed out..
Biography
Fitzgerald was born in
Victoria, British Columbia and graduated from
University of Victoria's with a Bachelor of Fine Arts, Acting specialization. She moved to Vancouver and worked with local theater groups doing plays. She began working in television and film as well. Her voice over career began with loops groups in Vancouver for shows such as The Outer Limits, She worked in looping for six years.[1]
Fitzgerald continues to work as a voice actress on cartoons. In Mattel's Playground Productions animated series Monster High she is the original voice artist to play the roles of
Abbey Bominable,
Spectra Vondergeist,
Rochelle Goyle. She also voices the lead character Raven Queen and character C.A. Cupid in the Playground Production series Ever After High.[2]: 64–65 In Wild Grinders, she voices Stubford, Denise and Patti. Erin plays Batricia in English version of The Jungle Bunch, which won an International Emmy award. She was also the announcer of Brainsurge for two seasons on Nickelodeon; the series was nominated for an Emmy.[3] In anime, she got involved in popular shows Naruto Shippuden, Bleach, and the Viz dub of Sailor Moon, and in more recent shows, she has voiced in Knights of Sidonia and K.
On stage, Fitzgerald has worked with the comedy troupe "Fake Radio", performing 1940s radio plays and shows live at the Steve Allen Theater Hollywood, in authentic costumes.[4]
References
^
ab"Bio". Erin Fitzgerald Official Website. Retrieved January 11, 2016. "Work Bio - Erin Fitzgerald". Erin Fitzgerald. Archived from
the original on February 15, 2015. Retrieved February 10, 2016.
Well the first two paragraphs are fine as they are sourced to her bio and give decent amounts of verifiable and relatively uncontested information. The second half is a rehash of the filmography, which doesn't add much insight as to her career. It needs to be rewritten to highlight her major roles such as with Ed Edd n Eddy and the utility voice for Sabrina and other shows that enjoyed long runs. After the filmography has years assigned to it, it can be made clear what are her notable and most important roles, and then that can be transferred over to the introduction paragraph. But yeah, finding secondary sources and reviews is key for this section.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
07:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for looking in here. I just wanted to wait til one of you came and started talking. I am going to unwatch this - this is not my field and you all can decide way better than me what is encyclopedic in this topic. Good luck, and feel free to ping me if you have trouble in with advocacy or COI in the future.
Jytdog (
talk)
07:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I have gone ahead and restored the first half. The article still needs lots of work but hopefully those who fill in on the bio can provide the secondary sources to make it as quality as other voice actor articles as with
Nancy Cartwright.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
18:40, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
ELs
Does everybody believe that all of these should stay? I left her personal website there
IMDb should be kept as a standard element of screen performer articles. DeviantART should go under the general category of one official page for each subject; subject can link to it from their official site. I withhold comment on the rest. --
Nat Gertler (
talk)
06:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Deviant ART is not needed. Official website covers all the big ones like twitter, facebook, Instagram and so forth. AnimeCons and ANN are standard EL's for English VAs who voice in anime shows and attend a lot of anime conventions. As she has equal or more work in animation and video games, you could remove those in favor of the supposedly comprehensive IMDb listing.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
07:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
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