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I disagree with the proposal to merge the two articles. As it currently stands
Engineering college and
Engineering College, which currently redirects here, primarily focus on the term as used in relation to English specialist schools, whereas
College of Engineering focuses on the more traditional use of the term. Merging the two articles would cause confusion and create an unwieldy article. -
Scribble Monkey (
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14:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)reply
I disagree too for the merging. With the argument of
Scribble Monkey. Besides the the topic of
Engineering College mainly discuss the specialized institutions of engineering.
I notice that the short introductory sections of both articles,
Engineering college and
College of Engineering, read practically the same, and I suspect both were written with Colleges of Engineering in India in mind. Beyond that short introductory section, both articles are lists. Being familiar with
U.S. Colleges of Engineering in mind, I take exception to the statement that little basic science (pure science) is covered in engineering colleges. Besides at least two years of math, which includes single and multi-variable calculus and differential equations, at least one course in computer science and a year of general chemistry and about a year and a half of general and modern physics are covered in the typical engineering B.S. core curriculum in engineering colleges in the U.S. This is in addition to any science requirements for specific majors, such as a year each of organic and physical chemistry for chemical engineering majors. Besides that, engineering is basically science, although it's supposed to be applied science, and more science is covered in the engineering core courses themselves, such as material science, statics and dynamics, strength of materials, thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, and heat transfer.
H Padleckas (
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22:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)reply
I've decided I'm going to do this with this article
Engineering college: Since this article beyond its introduction, which is very similar to the introduction in
College of Engineering, is essentially about Engineering colleges at English specialist schools, I plan to move
Engineering college to
Engineering college at English specialist school (along with its Talk page) and eliminate the present introduction. The
College of Engineering will continue where it is, covering university/college level education in engineering as it is now, and of course the list of colleges/schools will be kept there. I'm awaiting any feedback until I make this Move. Then, I plan to eliminate the WikiProject India banner from this moved Talk page, and remove anything to do with India in the newly moved article and its Talk page. H Padleckas (
talk)
22:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)reply
I agree with the decision to merge and also to rename the article as ScribbleMonkey has suggested. An engineering college is a category of specialist school not one component of a specialist school.
Dahliarose (
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10:20, 27 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Engineering college is the normal terminology for English schools. If the term is not used elsewhere can we not simply retain the English specialist school stuff on this page and move the Indian stuff to College of Engineering?
Dahliarose (
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22:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)reply
I agree. This page was originally set up 5 years ago for English specialist schools, but there have been several attempts since then to remove mention of that usage in favour of, primarily Indian, Colleges of Engineering. This page should keep its original usage and contain a hatnote to
College of Engineering and vice versa. - 23:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Continuing work on this, I put a "hatnote" (like a short header) at the top of the
College of Engineering article that says "This article is about university level Colleges of Engineering. For Engineering colleges at English specialist schools, see
Engineering College (English specialist school)." I did this because I thought that most of the time readers looking for
College of Engineering or
Engineering college are interested in the various university level Colleges of Engineering throughout the world - more likely than the Engineering Specialist [high] schools in just England. This action was suggested by
Siddhartha Ghai in a preceding remark about a hatnote. I then made
Engineering college a Redirect to
College of Engineering, and did a corresponding thing to its Talk page. Then,
Scribble Monkey removed the WikiProject Universities banner from this Talk page, which is fine with me because these Specialist schools are high schools. What is left to do here now is to put a "reverse" hatnote at the top of this article, as suggested by the preceding unsigned "vice versa" comment.-->done. I will then be done with this
Engineering College (English specialist school) article and someday plan to work on the
College of Engineering article. Any comments I have on that I will leave on
Talk:College of Engineering.
H Padleckas (
talk)
14:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC)reply
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