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Edit reverse about general notability and reliable sources
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Onel5969: A editor, not accepting the stub status of a Energy in the European Union article, reversed for a second
time the change from a redirect (to a page about energy policy) to a general page about energy in the proposed subject. And that instead of starting a talk about my hint as
WP:STUB (I find disappointing the second reversal, without trying first to reach a consensus). Counter arguments where general notability and reliable sources. First, I don't get that Energy in the European Union needs to question about general notability. The topic is surely notable. Second, I ask the editor to indicate what, of the stub content, is not reliably sourced. The information is old, but non unreliable.
General notability refers only to news or other specific content which is not automatically relevant to a encyclopedia. But a page about Energy use in one of the largest World supranational political Union is surely notable. But what happens if there is not enough encyclopedic coverage of a subject like that ? We have
WP:STUB. It is a starting proposal to expand to a article status, that is an article that, although providing some useful information, lacks the breadth of coverage expected from an encyclopedia, but is capable of expansion.
Beside, the content was
stripped from the page
Energy in Europe, where it was misplaced because the European Union is not Europe (Belarus, Norway, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Ukraine, for example, are all in Europe, but not part of the European Union). --
Robertiki (
talk)
12:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Sorry,
WP:GNG's opening sentence is "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article." Usefulness is not a standard for inclusion on WP. Directories might be useful, but there is
WP:NOTDIRECTORY, for instance. This is not a question of notability, but a question of not providing enough in-depth sourcing from independent references to show it passes
WP:GNG, and as per
WP:SOURCE. Stubs can have a single source, as long as that source shows that it meets notability, a perfect example of that is a stub about a village in India, whose only source is to the Indian census. In addition, this appears to be a
WP:FORK of the target article, which also includes info on energy consumption.
Onel5969TT me12:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't agree, for example, the source indicated is that of the European Union statistical agency, like your example about India. But anyway the article needs to expand. What is the minimum to satisfy your requirements ? I don't have much time now, but could add something. --
Robertiki (
talk)
12:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Onestly, have you read the "target" ? Could you point me to the production data ? Have you read any of the "Energy in nation_xyz" to compare to a "policy" article ? And more, how do know the "Energy" article would cover the same subject as the "Policy" article ? --
Robertiki (
talk)
02:45, 17 February 2022 (UTC)reply