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Ain't energy transition a general term of a societies move from one source of energy o an other, rather then the specific move from coal & nuclear energy to reneweble in Germany? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.227.131 ( talk) 12:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
If you talk about Germany (Energiewende) as the article currently does, then no. This term is used to describe the efforts to replace fossil fuel and nuclear power sources with renewable sources. I don't know if this term is more generically used in the English language. 82.209.173.81 ( talk) 19:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Guanolto (that's myself) and Reinthal have been discussing where this article belongs. It was a stub article, and I then started adding sections to it by translating parts of the corresponding German-language Wikipedia article. In the meantime, people have changed its content from an overall focus to an article dealing only with developments in Germany. In order to preserve my article and continue adding to it, on Fri12Apr13 I will rename this article "Energy Transition in Germany" and make a new article "Energy Transition", which will again have a more global treatment of the issue. I will also add links to connect these articles with each other and with others whose topics overlap with them. Scott Ellsworth ( talk) 01:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I propose this article should be merged with Energy Transition Ottawakismet ( talk) 17:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Although the two articles may look very similar at the moment, they are developing in different directions. One is about the issue in general; the other is specific just to what's happening in Germany. The big problem with trying to keep them the same is that then people keep pulling the one article in two different directions, each making changes that are not acceptable to the other group. Personally, I'm working on the general article, and I don't like people coming in and rewriting it so that it pertains only to Germany. Scott Ellsworth ( talk) 16:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The sentences *** "Industry has had their rates frozen and so the increased costs of the Energiewende have been passed on to consumers, who have had rising electricity bills. Germans in 2013 had some of the highest electricity costs in Europe.[8] In comparison, their neighbour France has some of the cheapest in the EU (#7 out of 27)." *** is not very precise. I'd even consider it pro nuclear biased. While the price for private customers and small business is high in Germany, the price at the energy exchange (EEX) and the price for industy and large scale consumers is one of the lowest as those consumers are exempt from the cost for subsidizing renewables. The electricy supply in France is soley based on EdF, a tax subsidized state owned enterprise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.138.39.55 ( talk) 10:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
"The key policy document outlining the Energiewende was published by the German government in September 2010, some six months before the Fukushima nuclear accident." That's somewhat misleading if not plain wrong. Key to the "Energiewende" is the EEG from 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Renewable_Energy_Act The reference to Fukushima also implies that the energy transition equals the nuclear phaseout. That is a popular misconception. 92.206.201.238 ( talk) 13:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I deleted the claim that there isn't enough space for a energy transition in Germany. The calculations were based on the ridiculous claim that the energy transition would only use solar farms to generate electricity, whereas in reality it is mostly wind turbines and solar roofs with a lot less space requirements. There were calculation errors in it, too. And last but not least it was WP:OR, so even if you ignore the mistakes the deletion was mandatory. I also checked my literature. Armaroli and Balzani dicuss the point of space requirements in a global context and conclude: "CSP and solar PV plants do have a non-negligible footprint, but they do not need much spacing areas. Altogether, it has been estimated that the above mentioned plan would require an additional area of about 0.74% of the global land surface for footprint and 1.18% for spacing, which reduce to about 0.41% and 0.59%, respectively, if 50% of the wind energy were over the oceans.73 Therefore, although the development of renewable energies requires the use of considerable land areas, it is not limited by space requirement." ( Nicola Armaroli, Vincenzo Balzani, Towards an electricity-powered world. In: Energy and Environmental Science 4, (2011), 3193-3222, S. 3203 doi: 10.1039/c1ee01249e.) And Volker Quaschning states that solar farms in Germany can produce 140 TWh (rougly a quarter of the German electricity demand) using only 0.2 million ha. (Volker Quaschning, Regenerative Energiesysteme", Hanser 2013, p. 359.) which would mean that for providing the whole German electricity demand with solar farms there would be needed only 0,8-0,9 million ha, or 8000-9000 km² This ist only just over a thenth of the Bavarian territory. So the calculations were, as I said in the beginning, WP:OR and plain wrong. Andol ( talk) 14:54, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
I have changed the wording of the last sentence in criticisms. I did not intend to change the meaning. There seemed to be an abrupt change in style at that point because of being written by another author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graemem56 ( talk • contribs) 11:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The article states "An example of an effective energy conservation measure is improved insulation for buildings" — this however remains an example of energy efficiency. An example of energy conservation would be to turn down the thermostat. My viewpoint is in agreement with the article on energy conservation and also with usage in the literature, for instance:
Agora Energiewende (2014). Benefits of energy efficiency on the German power sector : summary of key findings from a study conducted by Prognos AG and IAEW (PDF). Berlin, Germany: Agora Energiewende. Retrieved 2016-04-29.
I about to make the necessary changes. RobbieIanMorrison ( talk) 16:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I am planning to rewrite the introduction section so that it is more specific to Germany. If you want to make suggestions below, I will try and incorporate them. RobbieIanMorrison ( talk) 15:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
I believe this page would be better served by the title "Energiewende in Germany". Any comments? RobbieIanMorrison ( talk) 21:40, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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The last part of this phrase about groundwater seems to be out of place: "Between 2004 and 2011 policies lead to around 7000 km² new maize-fields for biomass-energy by ploughing-up of at least 2700 km² of permanent grassland. This released large amounts of climate active gases, loss of biodiversity and potential of groundwater recharge."
Shouldn't it be something along the lines of "...and potential for reduced groundwater recharge", given the negative context of the section? I cannot access the cited article unfortunately, otherwise would verify myself. Montblanc44 ( talk) 16:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
An October 2022 opinion piece by Thomas L. Friedman in the New York Times is highly critical of the Energiewende and Atomausstieg, see "Putin and M.B.S. Are Laughing at Us". Retrieved 8 October 2022.
The question is what that covert encouragement all included. -- Myosci ( talk) 13:36, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Just to note that the German nuclear exit has recently been extended for three facilities due to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and subsequent events. No new fuel rods will be supplied but the operating lifetimes will be extended. This measure is not expected to impact positively on carbon emissions. [1] RobbieIanMorrison ( talk) 07:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
RobbieIanMorrison ( talk) 07:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
The "Etymology" section does not actually contain an etymology. Johundhar ( talk) 19:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)