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Consumer electronics in Japan
This page is in dire need of expansion and a good clean-up, I needed to do a project on this topic and this page is not very useful at all.
Wikiuserman (
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18:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)reply
This article is outdated (from 1994), a lot has changed since it has been written. The Japanese electronics industry is downsizing. Keep in mind the article I'm linking to is from 2007. There is also the recent reported losses
[1][2], the Japanese electronics industry is past its era of dominance, I think this needs to be reflected in the article. --
Aizuku (
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05:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Old info is old
This article is full of old info that dates back to the 80s and early 90s. Since then foreign competition (chiefly Korea and Taiwan) and the decade long stagnation -See:
Lost Decade and
Economy of Japan#Current economic issues- has since eroded Japan's dominant market share. This is no more evident than in
Semiconductor sales leaders by year. This article needs to be brought to the 21st century, where Japanese electronics companies while strong and innovative are no longer the dominant players.
What do you think of this? I'm open to suggestions on improving it
Effects of the Lost Decade and following recessions on Japanese Consumer Electronics Industry
The Japanese electronics industry is downsizing.[1], the Japanese electronics industry is past its era of dominance.[2]
Low cost -which at one point was a key strength in Japan's competitiveness- of Korean, Taiwanese and Chinese electronics, helped erode Japanese companies market share outside Japan. Tougher S. Korean competition will force more Japanese companies to consolidate. [3]
Dropping demand inside Japan, after the
Japanese asset price bubble's collapse and the following
Lost Decade. The Japanese semiconductor industry declined by 15% in 2009. Particularly after the Q3 2008 collapse of the digital consumer market, the industry collectively lost more than $5.5bn by the end of March 2009.[4]
Sony-Ericsson, worldwide marketshare dropped from 7.2% in 2007 to 4.9% Q3 2009 [5]
TDK, a subsidiary of
Imation, reports first loss in seven years, will cut 8,000 jobs.[19]
Oki Semiconductor became a part of
ROHM Group effective October 1, 2008.[20][21]
NEC and
Renesas signed thier contract at the end of July 2009, with an eye to integrating operations by April 1 2010. [22]
Japan while still a major global player in the semiconductors industry, the market share Japanese players held has long been eroded. See:
Semiconductor sales leaders by year
I think this is very good and by all means should be added to the article to update and better it. The only question I have is what is the relationship between the semiconductor industry and the consumer electronics industry because the status of the former is used to emphasis the status of the latter. I'm sure there is a reason its just not clear to someone without the proper background. error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (
help)Elite Honour (
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07:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)reply
Analysis of the Consumer Electronics Industry in Japan
I've found this
[3] resource that includes numbers discussing the decline of the Consumer Electronics Industry in Japan, maybe it could help with improving and updating the article. --
Aizuku (
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10:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)reply
It's not just CONSUMER electronics
Template:Japanese Electronics Industry includes a number of
B2B companies that don't directly cater to consumers. Although I once suggested removing them from the template, I now think that it's better to expand this article to include all fields of electronics because the Japanese electronics industry has shifted its focus from consumer to other fields, notably industrial electronics, and many companies remain competitive in their markets. For example,
Mitsubishi Electric is generally considered a consumer electronics company, but its engines of growth are
power electronics and
factory automation, among other things. Also, many Japanese companies export materials, components, and production machines to Korean and Taiwanese electronics companies. Please take this into account. --
Shinkansen Fan (
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02:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I agree, if I wasn't busy with my research plan I would work on this article more. Japanese electronics companies are critical to the livelihood of companies all around the world. This was obvious after the earthquake where many companies suffered supply shortages of parts made by Japanese companies in Japan. --
Aizuku (
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16:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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Reply For now, I think it's better to consolidate information into one place, and cover lesser-known fields: heavy electric machinery, precision machinery, opitics, mechatronics, electronic components, and the like. I'm not sure that there are many English sources though. Perhaps Japanese sources are better. We should avoid making a clone of this article or
Manufacturing in Japan#Electronics.--
Shinkansen Fan (
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13:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Then you're going to have a very unbalanced article if you can't find that much on the rest of the industry. So it would appear better to have a separate article, to prevent an unbalanced presentation.
WP:NOTPAPER, there's no restriction on the amount of articles you can write.
65.95.13.213 (
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03:56, 20 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I've been holding back in hopes others may join, but it hasn't happened. No, I don't see a problem if there's only enough good writing to fill a paragraph or two about industrial electronics, broadly defined. Would that small amount of text be better as a tiny
WP:STUB article than as a modest sized
WP:SECTION? Not that I see. If, on the other hand, we someday get enough prose for fifty or a hundred paragraphs on industrial, military, scientific and other non consumer electronics, that's the time to decide whether the national electronics article is
WP:TOOLONG and should be split by topic.
Jim.henderson (
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03:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
There is some untranslated material that can be transferred from the Japanese page discussing non consumer electronics. Hitachi, Toshiba, and Mitsubishi Electric are coming back strong
電機大手7社:回復明暗 東芝、日立最高益 新興国需要で--3月期, after the global economic crisis, and this page should reflect the recent trend. I'm beginning to think that each article of electronics companies should be improved first. For example,
Mitsubishi Electric is poorly written but deserves much better.--
Shinkansen Fan (
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07:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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Copyedit needed
This article has several issues, but the most important one is that it seems to be full of untruths.
The article claims "Sony was founded in 1946 by Masaru Ibuka and Akio Morita and rapidly advanced in the electronics field. The invention of the pocket transistor radio placed the company at the forefront of electronics development, both in Japan and worldwide." That sentence reads as if Sony invented the pocket radio - which is incorrect according to another Wikipedia article coupled with a pic of the TR-1 box:
The Regency TR-1 was the first commercially manufactured transistor radio.
[4]
Two companies—Texas Instruments of Dallas, Texas, and Industrial Development Engineering Associates (I.D.E.A.) of Indianapolis, Indiana—worked together to produce the Regency TR-1.
[5]
The grammar is also in need of some work. I will come back tomorrow and have a look to see if any work has been done to correct anything - if not, I will start chopping out the rubbish.
Chaosdruid (
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17:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)reply