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The result of the move request was: Splitting to Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution (pre-Mubarak's resignation) and Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution (post-Mubarak's resignation) while keeping a short summary on this page. Consensus is clear now. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 05:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I think we need to split the page again into two other pages while keeping summary here. The page need to split into two pages; one dealing with protests before Mubarak stepped down and post-Mubarak. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 12:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
In the future, after numerous similar revolutions around the world, there will be one article titled something like The Egyptian Revolution of 2011. It will be one page. It will tell the whole story. That is what this page should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.78.174 ( talk) 23:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
27 January 2011:Egyptian police shot dead one protester in the Sinai Peninsula on Thursday, raising the official death toll to at least five on the third day of public protests in the country. Other sources said this number may be much higher. Bikya Masr staffer was detained, spent 24 hours in detention. Thousands of protesters in Suez, two hours east of Cairo, continued to clash with riot police, which have responded with tear gas, sound bombs and water cannons in an effort to disperse the demonstrations. Suez has become the tipping point for what is now being termed the Egyptian revolution, as reports of violence flow across social networks. Many are referring to the area as a “war zone.†There has been a curfew in place in the city for the past two days and police are attempting to keep people out of the city. Reports that the military has taken over from the police have also trickled in.
30 January 2011:As the Egyptian military exerts more security measures in an effort to push protesters away from central gathering points in the capital Cairo, bodies were discovered in front of the interior ministry building, where police forces seem to have shot and killed protesters on Saturday. According to reports from journalists on the ground, bodies were left on the ground overnight by police, which is likely to spur more anger from Egyptians calling for the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak.
In the past 24 hours at least 100 Egyptians have been reported to have been killed across the country. The rising death toll is not expected to remain stagnant as more reports are coming in. At least 1000 people, and possibly more, have been injured in the five days of demonstrations that began on January 25.
Egyptians again defied government calls for a nationwide curfew on Sunday evening as hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets in Cairo and elsewhere. The protesters continue to demand the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak and his entire government.
Sunday was the sixth day of demonstrations in Egypt. Protesters are demanding President Hosni Mubarak step down and allow a transitional government to be established. What is usually a day of massive traffic in the country on the first day of the work week has instead turned into another day of popular uprising. Bloggers and campaigners expect demonstrations to be the largest since protests began on January 25.
31 January 2011: On Monday evening, the Egyptian army issued a statement that said freedom of expression would be guaranteed as long as it was peaceful. It came after another day of protests in Egypt that saw tens of thousands of citizens take to the street in continued pressure to force President Hosni Mubarak’s government to quit.
According to United Nations rights organization unconfirmed reports put the death toll from the week of demonstrations aimed at ending the 30-year reign of President Hosni Mubarak may be as many as 300 people.
Millions of Egyptians took to the streets on Tuesday in a bolstered attempt to oust President Hosni Mubarak from his three decade reign. As night fell in Cairo, tens of thousands remained in central Cairo’s main Tahrir Square, chanting and demanding the resignation of the president. The scene on the ground, eyewitnesses told Bikya Masr throughout the day was “pure excitement and hope in the days to come.â€
The 8th day of demonstrations began as early as 7 am local time, with citizens making their way to meeting points in Cairo, Alexandria and other locations across the country. By noon, estimates put the number of protesters in central Cairo at more than one million, achieving the goal of a million person march.
“These conditions are about to take us to the unknown,†Mubarak said in his second speech to the nation. There are “difficult tests†and some have “wreaked havoc†and caused violence during this time.
6 February 2011: Opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, hold talks with the government, chaired by the vice-president. They say a core demand for the removal of Mubarak is not met. The sides agree to draft a road map for talks and a committee is set up to study constitutional issues. Banks re-open after a week-long closure. Thousands gather in Tahrir Square joining noon prayers to honor "martyrs" killed in the bloodshed.
I know the draft needs a major copy editing and I would like some help doing so. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 08:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I've deleted a whole bunch of dates where nothing happened. It saves a ton of space don'tcha think? Ericl ( talk) 14:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Currently there are two (or more) timelines, there's the Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution with before and after Mubarak very detailed sections, and then, again very detailed, there are the Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution under Hosni Mubarak's rule and Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution under Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. They look like they have not been cross-checked and most importantly none of these timelines has been updated for quite some time. I tried to update one of them when I came across the other. They should really be merged down somehow. Trek qo ( talk) 16:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
This page is nothing more than an index it seems, I think we should expand it into an actual article about what is an ongoing civil conflict that began with the January 25th Revolution and continues to this day. Charles Essie ( talk) 01:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the merge request was: merge. GreyShark ( dibra) 20:26, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
While knowing that the merged into article may sound like an index and looks in terrible shape, but it's the article that currently encompasses all current Egypt-related events including the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 up until now with the Islamist unrest in Egypt (2013–present) and its template is added to almost every article about the events. Aftermath of the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 might confuse many people with the tonnes of different events that followed the revolt. I suggest that in case of a merge, a new section should be created in the civil unrest article called "Aftermath" or "Impact", then list under it issues like economy, Sinai insurgency..etc. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 20:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Egyptian Crisis (2011–present). There is a consensus to broaden the topic to include all aspects of he crisis, but no consensus to expand it to include other aspects of Egypt's history since 2011. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Timeline of the 2011–present Egyptian civil unrest →
Egyptian Crisis (2011–present) – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. --Relisted.
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Fitzcarmalan (
talk)
21:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
There are tonnes of sources referring to the individual events in Egypt from 2011 till now as a "crisis" and this article overlaps them all.
A
coup d'état and
the current conflict which includes →
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8]
[9]
[10]
[11]
[12] as well as
this and
this prove that it's more than just a "civil unrest" now. We can also definitely include
the increasing violence in Sinai as a response to the coup and the
Cairo sit-ins dispersal like
this and
this.
Fitzcarmalan (
talk)
21:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the economy section is the only valid part here, since the other three are not a significant 'impact' of the crisis and two of them (the persecution of Copts and the sexual assaults sections) deal with issues that were already there before the 2011 revolution, while the Attacks on foreign missions section is by no means an 'impact' no matter how well-sourced it is. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 01:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Kudzu1 moved this article some time ago from 2011-present to 2011-14, a move which I supported. Greyshark09, however, appears to disagree and moved it back to the initial title. (copied from Talk:List of ongoing armed conflicts#Egyptian_unrest_again) I've managed to find an article from International Business Times which clearly says that Egypt's "period of political tumult, marked by economic decline, social unrest and a flirtation with popular democracy" (an obvious reference to the Egyptian crisis) has "effectively ended" with Sisi's ascent to power. The last planned "uprising" against Sisi on November 28 last year failed considerably. And yes, 20+ people or so were killed during the last January 25th revolution anniversary, nothing significant came out of it either. I think we need to agree on something regarding this issue before making a formal move discussion. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 09:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
The Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy has a special timeline page on its website that may come in handy for editors of this topic. Entries begin with some 2010 background events of the "crisis", and they somehow end with Sisi's ascent to power. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 01:03, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Egyptian Crisis (2011–14) → Egyptian Crisis (2011–present) – If the post-coup unrest in Egypt is not yet over, the Egyptian Crisis might not yet be over. George Ho ( talk) 15:52, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
The Arab world's most populous nation had undergone a period political tumult, marked by economic decline, social unrest and a flirtation with popular democracy that effectively ended with Sisi's ascent.Yes, I'm aware that the sources I've found (FP and IBT) aren't enough, but it's still better than nothing. Do you have sources saying that the current events (if there are any) are a continuation of this crisis, political turmoil, revolutionary period or whatever? If we had this discussion a year ago, I might've had a different opinion, per WP:CRYSTAL. But now it's been two years since the coup, and no significant revolutionary movement has emerged since then. If we keep marking this as an ongoing crisis, just because of there are some minor protests today, it will remain so for years to come because there hasn't been a time in Egypt's history without protests and dissent. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 17:37, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Is "Egyptian crisis" the appropriate title for this article? Why or why not? If not, what alternative title do you propose? -- George Ho ( talk) 19:46, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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May I suggest removing the following paragraph from the section "Initiation of the Protests"
"The Muslim Brotherhood’s support of and participation in the Egyptian Revolution was no accident, but a planned and orchestrated attempt to support a regime change that would put them closer to achieving their goal of installing Islam at the center of the country’s political agenda. Armbrust (834-864) suggested in his paper that the collapse of the Mubarak regime during the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 may not have been directly caused by the Muslim Brotherhood, but their participation was a calculated one, as evidenced by their opportunistic actions during the conflict. In another study that was published in the Middle East Report, El-Ghobashy (2-13) suggested that the Egyptian Revolution was supposed to be a political exercise that should have brought back the value of the people in real politics—to reaffirm their power in choosing their leader. However, as El-Ghobashy (2-13) noted, it did not turn out to be that way, because of the many opportunistic groups and forces that took advantage of the weakened government and revolutionary forces to further their interests and aspirations for Egypt and the region. This set of actions perfectly describe what the Muslim Brotherhood did during the Egyptian Revolution. The bottom line is that the outcome of the revolution should have benefited the Egyptian people more, had the Islamist groups not intervened."
This is a loaded section with clear anti-Islamist bias. Though it does cite some analysis, the narrative itself is biased and speculative. For example, the use of the phrase "The revolution should have benefited the Egyptian people more, had the Islamist groups not intervened."
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Over the past few weeks, I delved into this article in order to improve its content and to provide it with more depth and detail. In doing this, I acted upon the remarks made on this talk page, such as Charles Essie's request to expand this article into a main article instead of just a timeline article, and the more recent suggestion of 82.21.162.192 to remove biased information. Some of the main edits/additions I made:
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