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Well, what do you think? I made this page all by myself
Well, not bad in statistics, but my tortosie could write better in contents. Medium. The Hegemarch ( talk)
I think this is an above average article, and relatively accurate, to boot. Granted, there's some POV issues, but when one person writes an article this extensive, that's bound to happen. Soon Wikipedians will turn their attention to it and collaborate and then we'll have a really helpful, quality article. This article was long overdue, and I commend your spearheading the effort.
Vedek Wren (
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00:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
If anyone is going to complain about the word level not being in the meaning of 중학교, it really doesn't have any deung in there. I should know; I lived in South Korea for more than 8 years. 68.72.115.242 01:47, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.-- naryathegreat | (talk) 01:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Please don't be offended 64-69.72.115.242, if you're still around, and I'll do my bit as soon as possible. Trachys 20:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I think there are some grammatical errors here and there... Rttrt 03:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
yeah... there are some grammatical errors. I'll try to fix some... by the way, I am sOOOO glad my parents didn't move [back] to Korea. I would die there. School from 6-12!!! *shiver* Istillcandream ( talk) 05:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
This article lacks a lot of sources compared to the length of information contained. L46kok ( talk) 15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
if you want an artical this long you have to give about 12 sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.12.123 ( talk) 22:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Concurred.-- Hawkey131 ( talk) 19:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
to much information for just one or two sources.-- Hawkey131 ( talk) 16:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
In general, I'm getting the impression of a lot of negativity in this article regarding the Korean schooling system. While some degree of valid criticism is good, it seems like every section is saying that the system is ultimately flawed and needs reform whether it's the lack of jobs upon exiting, the stress imposed upon students, or the rote memorization in what is being taught. *shrug* But I am far from an expert on Korean schooling, so I am hesitant to edit, even to try to tone down the pejorative words, for fear that I will distort truth. - Fuzzy ( talk) 13:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is definitely exaggeration. I went to one of the new elementary schools in Seoul, and I think there needs to be emphasis in stress on elementary and middle school is giving to their students. Watch the cane! The Hegemarch ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC).
Current ministry which in charge of the education is the Ministry of Education, Science, and Technology, not the Ministry of Education and Human Resources. It has changed since the inauguration of the president Lee Myung Bak. 125.152.9.67 ( talk) 10:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm a native South Korean, and I find this article fairly accurate. Although I think the education system in South Korea is unstable because of the increasing influences of hagwons(academies), corporal punishment, and the ineffective style of teaching, I think this article's neutrality is disputed and that this article is too negative about the entire system. You also have to mention that hagwons(academies) are growing and growing while the schools are shrinking and shrinking. The Hegemarch ( talk) 12:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Please consider editing the follwing section.
As a native Korean, I find this section rather alarming. It portrays the Korean Education system in an excessively negtive light.Most of your article was well written. However, your simplistic 4 point list was highly offensive.
"Meanwhile, those Korean students who are unable to get into a good university face few, even gruesome, options. They can either 1.) commit suicide, 2.) become unemployed and homeless, 3.) join the military, or 4.) settle for taking low-paying, menial jobs for survival."
As a Korean student, I was never faced with "gruesome options" due to a low test grade. Education is an integral part of Korea, but not to the extreme extent to which you portray.
No, Korean students that do not get accepted to good colleges do not choose between "suicide, homelessness, the military, or minimum-wage jobs."
They wait for retakes or apply to a different college. The most revered college in South Korea accept a very low percent of the applicants, but no, the rejected do not commit mass suicide. My cousin applied for a college and wasn't accepted. He is still alive and well, and he was accepted at a different college.
The unaccepted also do not become homeless or unemployed, as you have stated, nor do peole join the military as a last resort.
They most certainly do not flip burgers for a living just because of one rejection.
One of the wealthiest man in Korea did not attend college because he lived in extreme poverty.
Those supposed "suicides" only occur in extreme cases, and there are very few cases.
If, indeed, that was true, I'm sure the population of South Korea would be much lower.
It is rude and incorrect to claim that Korea bases so harshly solely on education, and your four restricted "options" are atrociously exaggerated. Who would ever force those punishments on someone just because of their grades?
Another mistake I found was the years. Elementary school lasts from grade 1 to grade 6, not grade one to five.
Your article was very informative, and with the offensive material revised or removed, it would be a stronger piece.
As a current highschool sophomore that has experienced the education system of both the U.S. and South Korea, I can see the major differences. However, those exaggerations are unnecessary.
While it was a good article overall, certain sections of the articles seemed bitter towards the Korean education.
Please, contact me if you would like to further discuss this topic.
Sincerely,
EnTaroTassadar (
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01:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC).
Removed this whole section
Unlike other systems where individual merit and achievements are a determinative factor in one's prospects for success, in South Korea, the main determinative factor for success is what university the person went to. A person's educational pedigree and credentials are far more important than other factors such as skills and personality. Hence, a Korean student who gets into a top notch university is likely set for life and is guaranteed a lifetime of fortunes and financial security. Meanwhile, those Korean students who are unable to get into a good university face few, even gruesome, options. They can either 1.) commit suicide, 2.) become unemployed and homeless, 3.) join the military, or 4.) settle for taking low-paying, menial jobs for survival. citation needed However, there are a few Koreans who opt to take the vocational route and become successful. The pressures to succeed academically in South Korea (where the university one attends is often determinative of one's success) contributes to the country's high depression and suicide rates. South Korea has the highest suicide rate in the OECD. Of Korean teenager deaths, suicide is the second most common cause, behind automobile collisions. [1]
This should have been removed a long time ago, and it should stay removed unless it can be rewritten from a much more neutral POV Chanhee920 ( talk) 22:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Far too biased Chanhee920 ( talk) 22:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree. This section should be rewritten or renamed. The entire section is on admissions into post-secondary education, but not actually on post-secondary education in South Korea. I was hoping to get information on the junior colleges and universities, not on the process leading up to admissions of these institutions. —Preceding
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75.128.23.99 (
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21:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
im wasting time, wasting money again...-.- I've heard from several koreans that they have horrifically long school hours. Like literally 12 hours a day on weekdays and 6-8 hours a day on wekends... 49 weeks a year! Is this true? If it is then it should probably be added to the article. Htimsleinahtan ( talk) 03:11, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Someone cited an opinion paper. I removed it because it was very subjective and had almost nothing to do with facts.
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/recordDetails.jsp?searchtype=keyword&pageSize=10&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=jambor&eric_displayStartCount=1&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=kw&_pageLabel=RecordDetails&objectId=0900019b804225cb&accno=ED507310&_nfls=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.182.216 ( talk) 14:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a section on hogwon (hokwon) academy's in this article? . I think they come under korean education. Savre ( talk) 10:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
EDIT: well there is sort of a section but I it suck$ :P
you mean hAgwon, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.244.31.91 ( talk) 16:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
See this edit, I don't know how to make it into an internal Wikipedia link, so bear with me.
User 132.3.45.83 did an edit which removed "Korean" from the subjects taught in elementary school in the section named "Elementary school*. Common sense would indicate that this edit was vandalism. However, I would prefer that a person familiar with the South Korean education system revise the edit to include "Korean" if it is actually included.
Strangely enough, the edit APPEARS to be made from a US military computer connection. It would appear that some follow up needs to be made. However, with all the cyber crime going on, this edit could have been made from some other country.-- TGC55 ( talk) 17:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 02:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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In the info box, the enrollment total is 17? This doesn't seems to be a correct data here. -- Codelyoko14 ( talk) 23:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello! I've archived the old talk page here: /Archive 1. I've looked over the article, and I will be editing this article in the future. I think this article needs to be improved on these issues:
Please help me fix the article, but remember to cite reliable sources following WP:RS. Leave a comment here or on my talk page if you have anything to say. Thanks! Kkj11210 ( talk) 05:49, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Update: I've re-made the introductory paragraph and the sections for better organization. Kkj11210 ( talk) 05:11, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I was researching about the history of education in Korea when I realized that there was a lot of information on this issue. I think the total sum of information on this topic alone is notable and bulky enough for another article. Precedents are: History of education in the United States and History of education in England. Thus, I propose that this article be divided into two, one being this article and the other being the History of education in South Korea. Please state your comments below. If there are no objections, I will split the article in 7 days. Thanks! Kkj11210 ( talk) 05:41, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
The section on universities is woefully out of date. How many schools are there in the country now? The attendance rate is from way back when, and there is no mention of the current national governmetn plan to change the financing based on proposals from the schools, to such an extent that the schools not winning in the funding competition are expected to close. The govt. is supposed to announce decisions in June 20014 (the scores on the objective half of the evaluations has already been announced, with a proposal from Konyang University's CICS ranked highest). The actual structure and functioning of a typical school is not mentioned. It is a four-year program leading to a bachelor's degree as the first degree. Students select their major before entering a school; in fact, they apply to and are accepted (or rejected) by a department rather than a university. Thus, a university might be very strong in area, with a low ratio of acceptances to applicants but be so weak in another field that virtually anyone applying gets in. 211.225.34.113 ( talk) 04:47, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
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Just do a browser search of `?`. However, starting in the `Primary education` section, and going all the way through the `References`, there are a bunch of question marks.
It seems like maybe they are placeholders for the Korean text, but some have the Korean text along with the Romanized text and the question marks.
Ciscorucinski ( talk) 13:38, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
To study and live in south korea Alia barreh ( talk) 22:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
This article is disorganized around marginal issues and seems to meander around educational importance, which should be logically self evident. Education exists because it is important, and that is the self evident issue. I would submit a rewrite about Education in South Korea on the format of similar articles, and focus on the branches and structure, function and beliefs. Approaches that differ from other countries, and the reasoning.
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