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There is some inaccurate informations here. Ex. Chung Ling High School is converted to English Schools before The Independence. There are only 60 Chinese Independant Schools in Malaysia, not 61. -- Terrorgen 00:51 23 Jan 2006 (UTC+0800)
There seems to be an emphasis on Chinese primary & secondary schools, but not much on national schools or Tamil schools. Or heck, even private schools or tuition centres (which seem to be a huge part of Malaysian education). Can someone add them in? -- Mydemand 02:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Can somebody please improve on the descriptions of secondary and tertiary education? ;-) I'm just a Form 2 student, so I don't know much about what's beyond that. -- 219.95.155.11 10:32, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
this topic should include chinese secondary education (independant schools) Terrrogen | Talk -- Terrorgen 03:53, 2004 Aug 11 (UTC)
UPSR stands for Ujian Penilaian Sekolah Rendah, not Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah. I'm in Standard 6, so i should know! Yongrenjie 05:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Can somebody who has the time please merge the older revision before the anon's rewrite with the current one? Both have a lot of valuable information. Thanks in advance to anybody who has the time. Johnleemk | Talk 14:28, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
removed "However this only applies to Bumiputera students"
Wrong. All may APPLY for matericulation. But you will probably not get it unles... -- Malbear 01:19, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Removed "However, since 2003 the matriculation programme has been opened to a small percentage of non-Bumiputera's as well. "
Wrong again. "some" non-bumiputras have always been admitted to matriculation. -- Malbear 01:19, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Removed "from mostly non-Bumiputera's "
This statement is a red herring unless you have some evidence. First you will need rough numbers of people criticising it and subsequently the proportion of folks who are/are not Bumiputras advocating this view. Is probably logical that some criticise it. Following that, it is credible that such a criticism exist int hat form.....but to state that most of those who criticise it are non-Bumiputra may not be true. Most non-Bumiputra parents have already given up on the local uni and sent their children to private colleges. Heck, 2 percent of malay parents now send their children to private chinese schools (words of the PM, not mine). While such criticism does exist (cf. the local press), its not really clear who the voices are behind it. -- Malbear 01:19, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Removed " It is considered easier because in the matriculation program the teachers set and mark the final exams that their students sit, whereas in the STPM the final exam is standardised and exam papers are exchanged between schools in different states to ensure unbiased marking"
This is misleading information. Matriculation Semester Examination Papers are marked by the local University Lecturer and not by the Matriculation Teacher.
The article, like every other article which has something to do with Malaysia, seems rather biased. I for one think the education here stinks, but some of the stuff in the article seems to me rather unfounded. I've never heard of a controversy about demographics and the PTS. Heck, the article doesn't even mention how it is biased. That part seems rather weak to me — can I have a source please? And the Politics section could be toned down a little. Johnleemk | Talk 09:09, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Glaringly biased - why can't there be some balanced writing instead of paragraphs of criticism? Not a place to "unload" your personal dissatisfactions
Compulsory Schooling does not exist in Malaysia as far as legislation goes. Otherwise it would be illegal for Orang Asli and the noodle man not to send his child to school. Education is however "free" to citizens.
According to the Serawak on line site ( http://www.sarawak.gov.my/contents/education/education.shtml) " The Government is soon to make primary education compulsory for all Malaysian children." This would imply that such legislation does not at this moment exist. Kindly cite a source that such legislation does exist (even then, enforcement....) Malbear 07:57, 24th Aug 2004 (UTC)
Can someone confirm
"Primary Education in Malaysia consists of 6 years of education, referred to as Standards 1 through 6."
The term that was used Darjah (before) is loosely translated as Standard or Grade but I thought the new term is "Tahun" which is "Year"....Anyone?
Malbear 07:57, 24th Aug 2004 (UTC)
Please provide a source for the following removed paragraph, as the quote is highly inflammatory, if true:
In 2004, the government created a new ministry called the ministry of higher education to oversee tertiary education. It's first minister, Dr Amir Shafie stated "As the Higher Education Minister, I will ensure the quota of Malay students' entry into universities is always higher".
It is quite possible the quote may have been mistranslated, miscapturing the Minister's real meaning. Right now it does not sound like something a Minister would say. Johnleemk | Talk 14:54, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Forgive me for saying this, but this article is starting to sound like a newspaper column. Could someone please re-edit the whole thing so that it is stylistically more like an encyclopedia article? Perhaps, references to specific quotations should be re-written in the third person instead of verbatim to improve the flow. Also, some of the sentences in this article are leaning towards POV.
UiTM has a campus in Section 17, Shah Alam that caters for pre-university education, especially sponsored students meant to go overseas. Scholars from different races go there. I believe it is called INTEC. Just to say that UiTM is not strictly bumiputra-only.
I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.-- naryathegreat | (talk) 01:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Could we please convert the links like this iroatm.cjb.net into proper references, as per Wikipedia:Cite sources/example style? Johnleemk | Talk 15:10, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Resources
The three major resources of malysia are tin,copper and timber. there are many more but those are the main three.
I think this artical is unbalance,especially in the part "secondary school", as the main stream school system is not largely describe.
However, this article is over focus on "chinese independent secondary school", this should be a independet articale. I think others(non malaysian) will hardly understand what happen becoz this event(the rise of chinese school) is very complex.
Chinses Independent secondary school is part of the malaysian education system, but it does not represent the whole system.
More importent, this article is not mention about "the philsosophy of Malaysian Education" at all. Some one should adjust it, becose this is a very importent figure.
I find those that want to turn the article into Queen's English standard as highly annoying and irritating. Could we edit on substance instead? __earth ( Talk) 04:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
This is weird, is this section, don't you find it odd that Acts like Universities and University Colleges Act are not mentioned at all? 130.195.2.100 13:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have added more some preliminary information about UUCA and the tuition phenomenon in Malaysia. Some help would be appreciated. 203.109.210.197 12:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi everyone, can you please judge whether Malaysia Students is relevant enough to be added as a link under the reference section along with blog like Education in Malaysia and Recom Forum.
Please add the link if you find it should be added. I tried to add the link but foreign Wikipedian ( Veinor) kept saying that the link to blogs should be removed just because they're blogs. Hello Malaysians, please help to judge whether the link should be added. Cupid9 19:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Update: Veinor removed links to Education in Malaysia (blog) and ReCom Forum (forum) too! Cupid9 20:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
FYI, the Chapter 2 National Education Blueprint [2] is a great source. I would contribute to the history section sooner or later but if any one wanna to go ahead first, please do. __earth ( Talk) 14:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
This article's organisation is a complete mess; we have second-level sections devoted to primary, secondary and tertiary education, and suddenly we jump into types of primary and secondary schools. Then we have a short bit on school uniforms and the history of Malaysian education (which is dreadfully incomplete), and a laundry list of "issues" about the Malaysian school system. Issues in Malaysian Education is probably warranted, but at the moment it reads like a POV fork. There's also the problem of getting citations for things like quotas; the article speaks of them in the present tense, but under meritocracy, they were removed in 2004. (I removed a couple of paragraphs about quotas, FWIW.)
In short, we need to:
2)Mission schools should be moved to Types of Schools section. 3)"The division of public education at the primary level into national and national-type school has been criticised for allegedly creating racial polarisation at an early age. In the 1970s, around half of all Chinese parents sent their students to national schools; as of 2006, the same figure stood at 6%. Lim Guan Eng of the opposition Democratic Action Party stated that ""When I was growing up in Malaysia, going to national schools, I never imagined that the country would become so polarized." Non-Malays, Chinese in particular, avoid national schools due to said schools being Malay-dominated and, especially in recent years, having an overwhelmingly muslim atmosphere.[1]" This part should be in the Issues in Malaysian Education article. The same with all the political and contensious issues. 4)The stuff bout UEC should be a separate article like the other examinations e.g. PMR, SPM etc... 5)All rehashings of difficuty levels, recognition levels should be in their respective article, not here. 6)"Brain gain" issue should be in Issues in Malaysia Education.
That's all that I can think of. 202.185.55.80 ( talk) 10:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
This article's is not balance and not follow the wikipedia guideline, whereby it was bias for chiness school and criticize the national school. The acticle's not mentioning about the history and the condition of Islamic Religious Schools (Sekolah Rendah Agama (SRA) and Sekolah Menengah Agama (SMA)compared chiness school. The Islamic Religious Schools (Sekolah Rendah Agama (SRA) and Sekolah Menengah Agama (SMA)is important for bumiputera(mostly muslim) but goverment not support it unlike chiness school, I suggest this article should not have any criticise to bumiputera and politics section.it should be remove and avoid. 203.126.136.223 09:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree that most of the things stated here are a bit biased. My Indian and Chinese friends all laugh that such small things could be a big issue. I think that someone is making a mountain out of a molehill over here. We Malaysians have been schooling and leaving together peacefully. But then, they are some who says this and that just to destroy our harmonic relationship to support their own personal objectives. It's these kind of people who like to create disturbance here in Malaysia. If you are a Malaysian and you dare write something that is based on your own perception without looking at all points of view, I believe that you are a troublemaker. It's true that some things do seem true in one aspect but most of the nonsense stated are just too biased and full of fallacies. So, when you read anything or hear anything, you must go back and process the information to see whether their logic is acceptable or not. In relating to the depth of information stated, I have to say that the selection of information are pretty subjective. I can only find information about certain schools that supports the writers view on education. National schools are criticized as though the government is not fit to give education to Malaysian and yet it had been reported in the local papers that top students actually came from national schools. If they can raise such students, why are you criticizing them so badly as though they are useless? If you are a teacher in these schools, won't you feel hurt knowing that someone is criticizing your institution? SRA and SMA differs greatly from 'sekolah pondok' and madrasah. Their syllabus are way different and it's standardized for all SRA and SMA. Furthermore, they also take national examination just like everyone else in Malaysia. Some of our students who are going overseas (UK, Ireland, Australia) are from SMA and SRA. If Australian Education can accept them, why are you saying that Malaysia can't accept them? MARA also had sponsored students even from madrasah to go to the US in the past. JPA, Petronas and FELDA offers scholarship to non-bumiputera. So, why are you saying that non-bumiputera are being ignored? So, what is actually going on? I don't see any quotations from recognized education officers regarding the issue. So, how can I tell whether this is your views or the experts' view of education in Malaysia? How can one find absolute truth when it is true only for one person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.49.218.37 ( talk) 03:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Greetings all. The page Academic term lists countries by the date/extent of the school year. North America, Europe, Asia, and Oceania are almost exclusively represented on the list. This country has not yet been added onto the page. Would anyone be able to pop over, and give it a quick edit? Thanks, samwaltz 22:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
In your comments regarding Missionary Schools, you glossed over the La Salle schools. The La Salle Provincialate in Section 5, PJ. Still manages & governs all the La Salle schools in Malaysia. The distinction is that the La Salle Brothers own the land & buildings, hence these schools carry the SRJK & SMJK labels. Up till recently, you would find Brothers as teachers & headmasters in these schools. The main reason we no longer have many of them around is that there aren't many people willing to dedicate their lives to joining these teaching orders anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.95.219.23 ( talk) 07:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
There is actually a curriculum for this called 'Kurikulum Prasekolah Kebangsaan' available from http://myschoolnet.ppk.kpm.my/sp_hsp/pra_sek.htm Kurikulum Prasekolah Kebangsaan teaches ( talk) 19:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
This proposed WikiProject is meant to organize, improve and expand all articles related to Education in Malaysia at all levels, including adult education, vocational education, etc. A lot of the articles in this category need work. If you're interested or would like to discuss this further, please go to WikiProject Proposal entry. Thanks. - Bob K 07:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the entire section about the girls uniforms being possibly sexually attractive and leading to rapes. It was completely based upon a story by the Star, contains no factual content, was completely opinionated and there is a factual section about uniforms anyway. Thanks, JameiLei ( talk) 23:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
What are the reasons for ethnic schools in Malaysia? Why the Chinese or Indian settlers do not mix with local population??? Are they racist and against the Malays? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.34.140.72 ( talk) 02:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
There's been some significant developments in public opinion about the education system in Malaysia, particularly in the primary levels :
Any ideas how these discussions and developments can be incorporated into the article? - Bob K | Talk 11:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that there is some such a divide, but those that worked on this article seems to understand this, but not explain it. Snori ( talk) 12:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Interesting article. Can someone please give more reasons why the Chinese (who I assume either newly migrated or somehow didn't become Malaysian citizens when they were born there and do not assimiliate) do not integrate with the local population in Malaysia and for example run their own Chinese schools? Are those schools sponsored by the Chinese government in Beijing? Do the Chinese students follow curriculum of the communist China in those schools in Malaysia? Anyway, quite unusual to be able to have so many Chinese schools in foreign country and not to learn local national language. Very different to other parts of the world. Thanks! Jenny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.129.20.9 ( talk) 07:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
The article downplays the importance of the national-type primary schools, given that most non-Malays (and some Malays as well) start their formal education in a national-type primary school. I have rewritten the primary education section to include the national-type schools. Elsewhere in the article, "vernacular schools" are used to refer to these schools, in a potentially confusing and non-NPOV way. For those who are not familiar with the issue, please bear in mind that most, if not all ethnic Chinese and Indians studying in the so-called "vernacular schools" are Malaysian citizens as well.-- Joshua Say "hi" to me! What I've done? 15:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
As noted in the section Major cleanup required, this article is a total mess. It can be said that the article has not improved much after two and a half years. IMO, this article is too focused on the criticism of the educational system. (On a side note, the article Issues in Malaysian Education is still a rip-off of this article with no real content of its own. I would suggest its merge into this article.) Of course, the educational system is not perfect, but I will rather see an objective description of the educational system. I would like to do some of the cleanup, but I can't guarantee that I will accomplish much due to commitments in real life, and I would need help in sourcing references. I think the article Education in England has a better organization of the sections, and i think it is one that we can refer to, since our educational system is modelled after the one in England. -- Joshua Say "hi" to me! What I've done? 03:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have done some editing to this section. I think the criticism on the matriculation programme should be removed. Or at least, there should be links or references provided to support the strong claim. I also plan to start a new article on the Malaysian Matriculation Programme. 07 Matthew ( talk) 07:36, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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Currently the article states that "Public primary schools are divided into two categories based on the medium of instruction". While this may seem true on the surface, the main divisions of public primary schools (and public secondary schools for that matter) are “Government Schools” and "Government Aided Schools“ (see §2 and §16, Education Act 1996). In fact some vernacular schools are Government schools, rather than Government aided. Almost all statistical documents produced by the Ministry of Education uses this classification of division with the type (National or National Type) being the secondary classification.
Perhaps the article can be amended to reflect that? - Bob K | Talk 08:08, 4 January 2020 (UTC)